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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: DuDe on June 26, 2007, 01:32:43 AM

Title: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: DuDe on June 26, 2007, 01:32:43 AM
Well me personally lately just felt like the game is going down the drain badly this time but maybe its just me whats your alls opinion
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: MosEz on June 26, 2007, 02:39:35 AM
cuz u dont play :(
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: lekky on June 26, 2007, 06:56:41 AM
Finally realised? What do you think a selection of this community has been trying to do recently? Drum up interest in a variety of ways. Such as y00tz' textures, zorchs menus, viciouz's projects and my attemps at advertising??!
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: KiLo on June 26, 2007, 07:20:28 AM
Strange thing is this month we have set the record for new members on the forums. As well as the record for the amount of people on the forums at one time, disregarding that 260 figure. The actual figure is like 61 and that was yesterday.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: iEATnoobs on June 26, 2007, 11:25:30 AM
I know what your saying dude. The only reason there are so many people on the forums now is because of the global login thing or the newbs are trying to find out why they are banned. There are also very few decent clans worth matching now and most are never on at the same time.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: bitmate on June 26, 2007, 11:38:02 AM
73 users on #paintball (GGC) and you say this is dieing??

I can't remember any time where more than 50 people were on ETG's #paintball channel
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: magalhaes on June 26, 2007, 11:59:16 AM
Dont come and cry cause the game is dieing. Go and do something.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Gold_Leader on June 26, 2007, 12:07:53 PM
I don't think he was crying, just making a point.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: magalhaes on June 26, 2007, 12:34:26 PM
Everyone is making this point in irc this days. Most of the people who say this dont do a thing to change it.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: nightryder on June 26, 2007, 02:02:55 PM
it may pick up again since summer is now here
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: DuDe on June 26, 2007, 02:44:26 PM
You Can just hope it will but i seriously doubt it
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: DuDe on June 26, 2007, 03:22:47 PM
Ok and i did not ask to be criticized with this so just state your opinion
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Spook on June 26, 2007, 03:23:20 PM
DP is alive, what are you talking about? lol...
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: DuDe on June 26, 2007, 05:09:42 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Eiii on June 26, 2007, 06:04:16 PM
73 users on #paintball (GGC) and you say this is dieing??

I can't remember any time where more than 50 people were on ETG's #paintball channel
Yeah, and how often does anyone say anything there?

...never.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: capo on June 26, 2007, 06:17:46 PM
as many people that are on these forums... it shouldn't be.

i haven't played for awhile until today because i got everything fixed.

but none of the servers have any1 in them...

except the GT servers...also, most of the servers i do try to connect to are blocked requiring a password : |
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Cobo on June 26, 2007, 06:19:21 PM
Yeah, and how often does anyone say anything there?
...never.

Quote
[07:06] * Now talking in #paintball
[07:06] * Topic is 'Digital Paint Paintball2 -- http://www.digitalpaint.org/ -=- Build 18 is out! -=- http://dplogin.com/files/maps for maps'
[07:06] * Set by jitspoe on Tue May 15 21:40:08
[07:06] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Cobo
[07:06] -ChanServ- (#paintball) Welcome to #paintball -=- www.DigitalPaint.org -=- GT Match Servers =-> http://www.graffiti-taggerz.com/~dpaintball/index-MatchTool.shtml -=-
[07:07] <LoreOfSerpents> Ahhhh!  It's back!
[07:07] <Cobo> lies
[07:08] <Kaos> leave leave o god plz leave
[07:08] <Cobo> K.
QED!
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Ace on June 26, 2007, 07:44:54 PM
Wait.......DP isnt living.......so it cant die......duh
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: magalhaes on June 26, 2007, 08:41:51 PM
Ok and i did not ask to be criticized with this so just state your opinion
Im not criticizing you. Im criticizing all those people that are on the community and like this game and are always saying what you just said on irc and dont to anything.
If we like this game and if we think its dieing we have to do something..not just shout: "this game is dead!"

edit-Oh and Ace just shut up :/
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Cobo on June 26, 2007, 08:45:15 PM
And if you like this game, we should do something other then telling people to do something.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: magalhaes on June 26, 2007, 08:49:32 PM
I dont think the game is dieing though...
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: iEATnoobs on June 26, 2007, 09:07:05 PM
Ok... well then there are tons of noobs playing and very few experienced players matching with clans. So the clan scene seems to be... dead
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: capo on June 26, 2007, 10:26:57 PM
Ok... well then there are tons of noobs playing and very few experienced players matching with clans. So the clan scene seems to be... dead

eh speaking of clans.......there are to MANY noob clans that die too soon....i think they flood the rooms then just die off...none are even experienced enough to even start one but o well. 
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Clipz on June 26, 2007, 11:36:56 PM
The game isnt close to dying dont worrt there are thousands of newbs out there. Ill admit dp is not what it once was (7 years ago) but its not going to die. The older community is fading away now but the new is comming.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Gold_Leader on June 27, 2007, 01:02:46 AM
I think that DuDe is talking about the clan scene.  Well the American clan scene I don't know how well the Euro one is doing.  Seems like there are fewer and fewer clans to match these days. :\
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Edgecrusher on June 27, 2007, 02:38:36 AM
So would cups resolve that issue (in that way less experience clans can learn from better)?

And btw, calling new people and clans noobs just turn them off from the game. Even when it´s just trashtalking.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Clipz on June 27, 2007, 08:32:55 AM
I didnt mean it like that... im just saying there are alot of people out there comming.. ive played this game since i was a kid ive seen people come and people go the majority of my age group is going to college or have full time jobs now.
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Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: zeusij on June 27, 2007, 03:40:27 PM
there needs to be an active competition ladder... that would definatly pump some life back into the community. Possibly OGL (ogl.org)?
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: jitspoe on June 27, 2007, 05:06:00 PM
By the topic title and being in "Other Stuff", I thought you were referring to the Half-Life mod.  Paintball2, though?  No.  Not by a long shot.  I just checked the server list, and right now there are about 8 servers with 10 or more people playing.  Even on a good day back when it used to be a Quake2 mod, I don't think we had that kind of server population.  Also, there are over 7000 registered accounts for the global login system and it hasn't even gone "live" yet.

I'm going to move this thread since it is legitimate discussion.

there needs to be an active competition ladder... that would definatly pump some life back into the community. Possibly OGL (ogl.org)?
At some point, I would like to tie a clan record and ranking system into the global login system, where accurate records of clan matches are kept, and clans can't just make them up.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: JKM on June 27, 2007, 05:27:53 PM
Well maybe we'd see more people playing if we played in the pubs and not just sit around on irc waiting for a match comon youre never too good to play in a pub, because when people want to start playing and there is nobody on servers and say there is a couple full servers nobody joins a server and waits for people to come... and we need a server like rage's old one. i remember back when i first started, my cousin set it up for me (Major, thanks cuz) and everything and there would always be people playing on ubciliff for me to practice with and thats what hooked me. people always playing. thats what we need more of, people playing pubs.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Ace on June 28, 2007, 10:41:43 AM
pubs are always good to put a beat down in.....then u play a private with the CC, ***, or 20id players, then u know u still suck haha
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Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Ace on June 28, 2007, 01:31:16 PM
well thats good for me ...... i dont have to get brutally beatin down by 20id members......i nver got to play against digi  :'(
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Termin8oR on June 28, 2007, 03:15:59 PM
DuDe is just being silly...
What a guy!
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Anarchy on June 28, 2007, 07:31:45 PM
well...if the better players did play in pubs more often, it would cause the newbs (notice how i spell newbs) to get better. i think that in today's pubbing, you can only be a certain level of "pro" since you're not facing that good of competition. it might be boring for some of you, but it would be better in the long run...=/
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Ace on June 28, 2007, 08:02:39 PM
ya thats it anarchy......its all true....im good in a pub usually......depends on map but ya i dont play against good people enough.....havent gotten any better in a long time....dont know how to improve i guess
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: PainKe on June 29, 2007, 02:29:08 AM
Maybe we should get more players here by adding banners, spots or other things like this to known sites. Imagine you search for "paintball" at google and Dp is the 1st link!
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: DuDe on June 29, 2007, 11:56:14 AM
LoL Termin8oR
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Brewsky on July 01, 2007, 04:00:14 PM
Probably the only thing i'll continue doing related to this game is mapping. Mainly because Tait's been in Europe for the past two months drawing maps while he's traveling on train between countries. Plus I get a lot more out of mapping than anything to do with this game. However I think I'm done matching and playing pub. And to my knowledge, most of the 20ID members are feeling the same way.

A crying shame... moving on...

This game has "died" about 10 times since I started playing it about 8 years ago. It's all cyclical. There is a lull in clan activity currently, but as far as server activity is concerned I have never seen this many new people trying the game, which can only lead to more clans. Most of them refuse to match the more prominent teams, or don't even know about IRC. Building the active population and number of clans could be as simple as spreading the word about IRC on pball servers.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Red Blood98 on July 01, 2007, 06:54:07 PM
The game will only die because of all the liners and campers in every server and they never stop...and their team never tells them to stop...so that would be the onyl reason for the game to die.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Spook on July 01, 2007, 06:55:53 PM
or it will die because people like you have no idea how to play it right, and take every chance to whine about how bad you suck against part of the game.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Ace on July 01, 2007, 08:55:11 PM
you only get pissed at liners and campers cuz u cant beat em.....were all victim...come on now and fess up....everyone
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Red Blood98 on July 01, 2007, 09:26:07 PM
you only get pissed at liners and campers cuz u cant beat em.....were all victim...come on now and fess up....everyone
I can beat them...they just make me mad that no matter how many times you kill them they go back to the same place and camp more...and then they hide until you get the flag and then come out and kill you.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Eiii on July 01, 2007, 09:35:29 PM
Then start to look for them there. Go around, come in from a side they aren't expecting, and hit them. So long as that spot gets them kills, they'll keep going to it.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Spook on July 01, 2007, 09:40:18 PM
Eiii, we all know noobs can't do that. Hence, that's why they get pissed.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Red Blood98 on July 01, 2007, 09:52:52 PM
Eiii, we all know noobs can't do that. Hence, that's why they get pissed.
You don't know how good I am so be quiet....you have no idea what part of the game im good at and what part im not.
@Eiii ~ Sometimes I think they leave their spot because they hide until the flag is taken....then they come out and the person who has the flag doesn't know where they are and they get killed.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Eiii on July 01, 2007, 09:56:59 PM
@Eiii ~ Sometimes I think they leave their spot because they hide until the flag is taken....then they come out and the person who has the flag doesn't know where they are and they get killed.

Sounds like those people are doing a pretty decent job of playing the game. Hiding's not a crime, and it's a pretty good idea if you know where your target is going.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Spook on July 01, 2007, 09:57:09 PM
kid, i've been asking you to 1v1 for about a week. you just ignore me.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Red Blood98 on July 01, 2007, 09:59:48 PM
kid, i've been asking you to 1v1 for about a week. you just ignore me.
maybe becasue I don't have to face you if I don't want to...your not the person I thought you were...I know that...I also know that Steve probably wouldn't keep anything said about me from me.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Spook on July 01, 2007, 10:19:45 PM
you just don't want to get slaughtered like steve did.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Ace on July 02, 2007, 07:54:16 AM
red blood i wanna play with ya see all these mad skills
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: KiLo on July 02, 2007, 08:56:33 AM
red blood i wanna play with ya see all these mad skills

They really aren't that mad. :P

Acutally I think you meant to put a b where the m is. So :P again.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: bitmate on July 02, 2007, 09:31:06 AM
For all of you who think that this game is dying out:
There are 1227 players registered on the GlobalLogin within 6 or 7 days, who have formed about 200 clans.
On the old test database have been more than 3000 accounts.

When I started to play this game 3 years ago, there have been 10 new forum posts / week.  Now there are about 20 in an hour.
Same with the servers, there have been 5 active ones. GT Pub 1 / Pub 2, Apex Pub 1-3.  Now each clan has like 5 public and 3 match servers.



This game is DEFINATELY NOT dying.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: lekky on July 02, 2007, 10:54:55 AM
Clan scene is pretty low though. There doesn't seem to be any new players coming in to the known clan scene, although there are many that could be there. I think someone mentioned it earlier we need a way of getting these pub players into irc and forming structured clans. Thats probably a #1 priority for us.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: DaRkNeSS on July 02, 2007, 12:03:04 PM
Agreed.  The game is growing by the clan scene is pretty much still the same.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Eiii on July 02, 2007, 02:26:01 PM
We need clans that are respectable. The few clans that have gobbled up all the good players are jerks, and the rest of the clans suck. And are jerks.

I think a league would help this, but it'd just get dominated by the good clans, which would make no clans play, which would cause it to ultimately fail.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Gold_Leader on July 02, 2007, 02:36:42 PM
We need to attract people to irc.  More people we get on irc, the more clans we will have to match.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Anarchy on July 02, 2007, 05:51:02 PM
maybe the better clans should make more trainee clans to train players so they become better. thatd be a start i guess =/
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: lekky on July 02, 2007, 06:26:16 PM
Anarchy, http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=7374
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Ace on July 03, 2007, 08:18:18 PM
or for the league thing.....maybe like a draft? just an idea it would be cool though
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Cobo on July 03, 2007, 08:45:40 PM
How about pickups everyday :)
This is how I picture it on a pub server...

PlayerOne: So anyway, PlayerTwo, are you coming to the pickup tonight?
PlayerTwo: Sure thing! I'll be there because thats where everyone cool plays.
newbie: Hey guys, whats this pickup thing you guys talk about?
PlayerOne: A pickup is a daily match game where matches are done, it doesnt matter if you arent in a clan.
newbie: Oh cool! Where can I get more details on this?
PlayerOne and PlayerTwo: On IRC!


An event done by the active community on a daily basis could be easily spread and reach the newbies of the game.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: KiLo on July 03, 2007, 09:29:50 PM
Cobo makes a good point except that we have to find some way to get the newbies integrated into IRC. Spook suggests a way to this here: http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=7374.0link=topic=7374.msg80441#msg80441
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Kaos on July 04, 2007, 01:24:24 AM
Cobo makes a good point except that we have to find some way to get the newbies integrated into IRC. Spook suggests a way to this here: http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=7374.0link=topic=7374.msg80441#msg80441
u could do this but most newbies think that irc is here on dplogin but thats not irc so we would have to explain and i don think some one is going 2 explai 2 2000/3000 newbies that irc on dplogin.com isnt irc
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: nightryder on July 06, 2007, 01:14:30 AM
in order to have pickups every day, there should be someone in charge to advertise, organize and motivate people to join. noone wants to start a pickup game, but people will join them if they know about it.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: sky.rider on July 06, 2007, 02:43:49 AM
right ;)
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Apocalypse on July 06, 2007, 03:19:18 PM
I would if someone made a server for it.....
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Matze on July 06, 2007, 05:41:59 PM
I think B/trainee squads are a very good thing to do and might be an important step into moving two "splitted" communities into one. Right now there are about 5 B squads, which should be a total amount of 25-35 people. If only those were integrated into irc and the matching scene, that'd be a good thing.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: DeadZero0 on July 07, 2007, 09:42:27 AM
Paintballs fine.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Herron on July 08, 2007, 09:31:32 AM

Paintballs fine.

I agree for the most part.  This pic is from this morning on a Graffiti pub server.  I talked to a few of them, two were from Brazil, and a couple others were from various countries in Europe.  The game is definitely growing in other parts of the world, I just wish it would start to catch on in North America to the same degree (or more).

Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: DeadZero0 on July 08, 2007, 09:33:28 AM
Well, get on myspace, facebook, whatever, and let's all start posting bullentins =D

"DIGITAL PAINT TWO!" PLAY IT NOW!
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: lekky on July 08, 2007, 09:46:03 AM
DIGITAL PAINT: PAINTBALLTWO*
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: bitmate on July 08, 2007, 10:04:05 AM
Considering the pings, I would say that there were only 3 NA's, the rest from EU / whatever.  Score boards like that truely proof that this game is definately not dying.  Though, most of the new players come from Eastern Europe, and at the latest development shows, Brazil.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: magalhaes on July 08, 2007, 10:08:00 AM
But when the south americans (brazil and such) start having clans and stuff they will need to rent a server for themself cause they ping 500 on euro servers and 400 on NA servers...

We need to get all these new plyers to irc. :)
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: bitmate on July 08, 2007, 10:21:10 AM
We need to get all these new plyers to irc. :)
Maybe we should add the latest version of mIRC / any other IRC client to the DP Community Edition.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: magalhaes on July 08, 2007, 10:59:25 AM
I'm not sure this new players download the DP community edition ;)
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: bitmate on July 08, 2007, 11:12:41 AM
Replace the original download with the Comm. Edition then, or add a mIRC (IRC in general) client to the full version of the game.
Plus, jitspoe should consider editing the IRC page, because it still forwards to ETG, and hardly anybody is there, nor are there any community activities like tounrnaments / pickups.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Apocalypse on July 08, 2007, 11:26:04 AM
I'm going to ask GT if once a day we could have a pickup in one of there servers I'm having trouble contacting them a server and maybe some help would be grately appreciated I'm going to start a topic about it.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: KiLo on July 08, 2007, 12:23:40 PM
On IRC people randomly grab a GT Server and will send the IP and password basically to all channels for a pickup game.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: bitmate on July 08, 2007, 01:06:39 PM
On IRC people randomly grab a GT Server and will send the IP and password basically to all channels for a pickup game.
Getting up a weekly pickup (or every 8th day, like it was used before) is better in my opinion.
Doing random pcikups will end up in a mass newbie game, with noname(2) switching to the winner team after each round.
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: Apocalypse on July 08, 2007, 06:26:21 PM
When I make it it's going to be every other day and I'm hoping to get a server where I can set autojoin and not let you change teams......
Title: Re: Digital Paintball dieing?
Post by: DeadZero0 on July 08, 2007, 10:11:48 PM
ah, thanks lekky =D