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Digital Paint Community => Clans, Matches, and Tournaments => Topic started by: blaa on February 27, 2007, 07:07:52 AM
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This time 3v3, this time with more maps, this time more matches, this time without regions.
Tournament for 16 teams. The 1st week(12th-17th) is for group matches. 4 groups of 4 teams. 2 from each group go to play off phase (19th-25th March).
Game: 20 minutes, all usual settings.
Maplist:
Havent decided anything, there is much time til the tourny starts. I thought of having a maplist of like ~8maps. 1 team cant pick 1 map more than 2 times.
Few maps could be something that everyone knows and rotates in pub servers even (ex: pp1). Then few maps what are used in matches alot (ex: c1). Then few not so famous maps, but still interesting (ex: routez). Then maybe some of the newest maps (ex: clipz`s maps are interesting, ch40s`s razzle looks good to me).
Servers
Havent contacted any of the server owners yet, but from the last tournament noone told me to intercourse off whe i asked to use a server, so I am positive about getting some servers. I also hope Piccaso gives me a better login than last time (he gave me a login with what i could only change the map [ the server had 1 map in rotation...]) and I also hope noone changes the admin login in middle of the cup and not letting me know (like happened with OTB server).
The regsitering will be opened as soon as I talk with viciouz, match report system will be better aswell.
Meanwhile, when you cant register or anything, just help me with the maplist and idle in #tournyHQ.
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Well, blaa, good idea, need to talk about this, maybe we should leave at least a couple more weeks before opening a tournament? It's only been a week since the final of the last one!
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my map suggestions:
propaint1
castle1
perfugio
hellsurvivors
razzle
pwa
roundup
pbcup_renoir
pp1, pwa as easy maps
c1, perf, round, ren as maps which are used in matches quite alot
razzle as a new map
and hell as a little bit exotic map
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propaint1
pbcup_renoir
propaint2
airtime3
antioch
rome
nhb
:)
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NHB for sure, and for another new map, why not that HCA_foretress or whatever it was called. that was a nice well-made map. Not many people like propaint2.
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hca_fort sounds good. I really dislike pwa because of the ladders -- they leave the attackers far too vulnerable. Roundup makes a nice match map, and propaint1 seems to be pretty popular among the mid-level to experienced players.
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Castle1
propaint1
shazam22
encounter
pbcup_sassault
pbcup_renoir
crimethink
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propaint1 seems to be pretty popular among the mid-level to experienced players.
except we are starting to dislike it, since it is overplayed
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Castle 1
propaint1
shazam22
pbcup_renoir
airtime 3
carpathian
roundup
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clipz new map, dont know the name
propaint1
razzle
Pbcup_renoir
carpathian
castle1
nhb!!! (really wanna try a match on that map..2curious)
hca_fort
crimethink
pbcup_sassault
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nhb
carpathian
Mainly these two... gotta be awesome! :D
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This is the final maplist:
castle1, propaint1, pbcup_renoir, roundup, razzle, pbcup_sassault, rome, cancan
4 groups, 4 teams in group - 3 matches in group phase. Each team cvhooses a map, 1 team can not choose 1 map more than 2 times in this tournament. So, 1 match is 2 maps, if team wins 1 map then team gets 1 point. If team wins both maps in a match they get extra 0,5points. This helps to prevent ties.
If in playoff phase tie comes, then tie map will be played. The tie map will be agreed by 2 teams from the given maplist.
One another thing is, all teams will play 6 matches, which means all ranks will be filled. Each groups 1st and 2nd spot plays for places 1-8. 3rd and 4th spot plays for 9-16th spot.
the website will be up soon.
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You should instate a screen shot requirement for the beginning of matches to ensure fairness =]
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http://www.viciouz.co.uk/other/dpcupform/form.php
for registering. 10 member spots, team must use irc and must give contact email aswell.
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thanks for obnoxious post removal jitspoe :D
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Okay guys, the website is now up - http://www.viciouz.co.uk/other/dpcup/ - I think thats a good web and it satisfies our need very good.
Now to the 2nd thing i wanted to tell, is there anyone who wants to help us with this cup? Because i am going to work outside the city in the cups 2nd week and cant be online at all, so anyone willing to help? You wouldnt have to do much, maybe sometimes remind the teams that they have to match asap and stuff like that. Looking for 2 active guys. Apply via forum pm or catch me in irc.
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I'm willing to help, drop me a line with specifics
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just post when u have the groups made plz
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IM IN lets do it
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I will help. Blaa just talk to me on IRC.
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So far we have 8 teams signed up ( http://www.viciouz.co.uk/other/dpcup/?q=node/9 ). So far we have 1 OTB server and 2 ch1ll servers + 1 ch1ll reserv server provided by boozie.
Anyone know how to contact the GT server admins?
You could also register in that site ;) - http://www.viciouz.co.uk/other/dpcup/
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We already have 9 registered teams, most of them with 5 or more players out of a limit of ten!
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cant wait for this
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Yeah it will be fun, what clans are participating in it blaa?
Ij, aB and [cc] probably
Who else?
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there is a list of teams on the website - http://www.viciouz.co.uk/other/dpcup/
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Yes, 10 teams so far, but I see some teams joining in.
tR I sure hope, OJ seemed interested, aB was very negative about this tournament but maybe they still join in, team_rp has many members in their clan and maybe they join in.
So, start spreading the word!
The tourny wouldnt be cancelled anyway though, If 16 teams wont show up then i just figure of a new format. (if 15 teams then 3 groups of 5 teams, if 13 then 2 groups of 4 and 1 group of 5 teams, etc)
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Well I am not too surprised aB isn't interested, they don't seem to like these sort of ideas. :( As for tR they are pretty inactive, which is why Wiesco and Dystro joined [cc], so I doubt they will enter a team. :( And I am trying to get .fR. to join but can't seem to get a large interest. Maybe you should join Blaa. :) :) :) :)
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blaa is on a team
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blaa is on a team
I know he is on a team for the tournament, QeHs, he is with Lekky and Oldie. I mean I want him to join .fR. the clan. QeHs is only his tournament team. :)
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10 teams atm
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i didnt know that dystro joined cc.
Okay, I guess 16 teams we wont reach, I will post the new format sunday. Minimum 3 matches in week, maximum 4 in group phase.
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Signups are closed now.
Figured it is comfortable to create a tourny format for 10 teams, and the team list is quite good in my opinion.
here is the team list (players in teams): http://www.viciouz.co.uk/other/dpcup/?q=node/9
The final maplist: Maplist: castle1, propaint1, pbcup_renoir, roundup, razzle, pbcup_sassault
Groups: 2 groups of 5 teams. 2 best advance to A-Finals (1-4th place), 3,4 go to B-Finals (5th-8th place) And last from each group plays for 9th-10th place.
Group I
[LC]
QeHs
MeMi
20ID
*STaRz*
Group II
Off constantly
The Nubbins
[aT]
[CC]
.cD.
Servers:
69.72.221.162:27981 -ch1ll- 3v3 Server 2
69.72.221.162:27980 -ch1ll- 3v3 Server 1
password 3action , logins 3action .
OTB server coming soon!
http://www.viciouz.co.uk/other/dpcup/?q=node/1 - all teams please study that post. Thanks.
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darn i will love this tourney...LC got the best teams :) :)
er33t memi qehs and starz finally 4 good matches...
dream come true
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how did you choose the pools? was it just randomly drawn or was there some sort of way to make it even. im just wondering. they look pretty even.
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was that someone talking?
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DT: read the topic ;)
it's starting tomorrow, so any complaints ahead of that are quite useless. On the other hand I understand that you don't want to match on weekdays due to the time differences, but that's a different problem with this tourny :)
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@ nightryder blaa told me to type 1 and 2 five times few seconds like 1,1,2,1,2.2,1.2.1
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I am really sorry that this incident occured DT.
I am also very sorry to announce that the most important thing in this tournament is gone, the ch1ll server. I got to know about it in friday. I was also lazy and moron enough not to set up a OTB server, I am sorry, I cant lead a tournament. I dont have time, either will or even no idea how to solve this problem..
Oh wait, yes i do! The group phase is extended until all matches are played (this also means that we wait until ch1lls are back up). USA vs USA games can still be played (go to GT website, get a server, pick a map from the *maplist* and play), same with euro servers (get memi or otb).
Oh, and mz I told you to write I or II :D
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I'm not completely sure about that, but was there observerblackout on the GT servers? If not, please change that.
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Even if you don't believe me, I'm pretty sure the outcome of razzle wouldn't have changed.
I agree, and it was not my intention to "accuse" you of obs reconning at all. I just think the matchservers should have it turned on.
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I know some people play matches without obsblackout, and mostly not having any observers, that's fine, but shouldn't, IF obsblackout is the norm for tournaments, all matches and match servers be default with obsblackout set to on?
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I am really sorry that this incident occured DT.
I am also very sorry to announce that the most important thing in this tournament is gone, the ch1ll server. I got to know about it in friday. I was also lazy and moron enough not to set up a OTB server, I am sorry, I cant lead a tournament. I dont have time, either will or even no idea how to solve this problem..
Oh wait, yes i do! The group phase is extended until all matches are played (this also means that we wait until ch1lls are back up). USA vs USA games can still be played (go to GT website, get a server, pick a map from the *maplist* and play), same with euro servers (get memi or otb).
Oh, and mz I told you to write I or II :D
Indeed you are very unorganized.
Our tournament server is/was READY to go and takes one command to start but you need to learn a little respect instead of ignoring my PM, complaining about a login access which was a result of your inability to answer my questions to you in the first tournament and lastly acting like you don't know who to contact to get a GT server when you know full well I was the one who went to the trouble of setting up the first one for you.
I responded to you in PM about using the GRaFFiTi servers AGAIN. I also explained to you that the reason I didn't give you a higher level login was because you couln't/didn't wish to tell me what access commands you needed a full access login for in the first tournament. I would have made those commands accessible to you if you had.
Looks like you really dropped the ball on this one...
To those asking about obsblackout:
I set the last tournament server up according to the configurations blaa requested and instructed him to make sure that ALL the tournament servers were setup the same using the identical config settings.
I turned obsblackout OFF a long time ago on the GRaFFiTi match servers because everybody complained about it when I had it on. It's an easy thing to turn on but there seems to be a definate communication problem where blaa is concerned.
I'm more than happy to help by lending our servers for tournaments but the people who are arranging the tournaments need to be organized, be specific about what you want and make sure all the server settings match.
ALSO, keep the lines of communication open in case any changes need to be made.
Lastly, if you start something, make sure you finish it.
Good Luck...
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http://www.graffiti-taggerz.com/~dpaintball/index-MatchTool.shtml - to get GT server
and for european servers:[OTB] 3v3 Tourny - 85.214.56.218:44444
pw 3action, login 3action
Please finish group matches within this week!
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Rotflmao!! You didn't listen to a word I said...
How convenient for you to volunteer our match servers for your tournament without first asking!! How do you know if our match server configs are set up exactly as the original tournament servers were. How fair is that to all those who have entered into the tournament you started and now "don't have the time to run?"
Not only can you NOT run a tournament, you're just plain RUDE!
Have a nice day!
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I dont have time...
May be some kind of excuse
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I'm still confused. When and who do we match?
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I wasnt doing excuses. Uh or maybe I was, Im sorry. Im sorry I tried to bring some competition in.
You see, I wasnt trying to start some sort of fancy uber-e-sports league, just a small little tournament. These small little tournaments felt so fun in 1 another game (although I just played 1 oneweek long 1v1 tournament [1map was used]).
But, where Ive went so wrong then? I had ch1ll, why I needed GT? Not my bad ch1lls went down..
iEATnoobs, yes you have to match all the people in your group - http://www.viciouz.co.uk/other/dpcup/?q=node/1 - please study that page, full information there.
Just to point out, after I made the groups last thursday I pasted that link to every team thatjoined in, I spoke to most of the teams in person aswell, to make sure all teams understand the rules.
Now, my favourite part - PICASSO !!!1 You seem so pointless to me, I am sorry, I dont like you. Its my right not to like you. Most of your posts in this forum ive seen are empty, useless, meaningless, annoying. Or maybe is it just me. For example in that cheat forum you asked jitspoe what was the cheat, when jits forgot to add the cheat: line. Like who the intercourse cares? And like why the intercourse would you care? You wouldnt care, youre just dumb. So now I need your permission to use that web? Great, I wont come to ask it.
There's no need for attacks here. Try again in 2 days.
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Wow blaa, All I did for you is waste my time trying to help you by setting up a special server for your first tournament and then YOU yourself asked how to get a hold of a GT admin in this very thread for the second tournament...
You claim you had ch|11 servers and then asked "why I needed GT"
Well, first of all you asked, and even if you didn't need our server then, the fact that ch|11 servers went down would have been reason enough for you to need our server.
Had you handled yourself in a respectful manner by communicating with me as you did when you requested the first server from me I would have been glad to help you by restarting our tournament server for you again. All you needed to do is communicate with me in a respectful manner letting me know precisely what you needed and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
It's NOT my fault you were unable to organize this tournament and take the necessary steps to see it to it's completion.
READ YOUR OWN WORDS: "I am also very sorry to announce that the most important thing in this tournament is gone, the ch1ll server. I got to know about it in friday. I was also lazy and moron enough not to set up a OTB server, I am sorry, I cant lead a tournament. I dont have time, either will or even no idea how to solve this problem.."
"POINTLESS" would be the fact that you basically wasted a lot of people's time with your unorganized approach.
Personally, I don't care how you feel about me and how you feel about my presence on this forum as well as the content of my replies to other threads has nothing to do with this thread or the facts I've mentioned above.
Your problems could have been solved with great ease with a little respectful communication.
DISCLAIMER: All statements above are intended to be constructive, factual, and noninflammatory.
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DISCLAIMER: All statements above are intended to be constructive, factual, and noninflammatory.
The way you put it makes you sound like you're on moral high ground. I think that your post was as much a flame as blaa was. Now, let's get this thread (and the tournament) back on track. PiCaSSo, my we please use GT servers? I'll pm you the config if you reply in the positive. Thanks!
*note to blaa: cut down on the booze*
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You're of course entitled to your opinion.
I'll be glad too...
Is it the same config as the first tournament or have you changed something for the second tournament. Also, to address the comments of the participants concerning obsblackout, do you guys want it ON or OFF for the tournament?
If you have a revised config you would like me to use, go ahead and PM it or email it to me at the address in my profile along with anything else you need. Oh, also let me know what commands you need access too if any for a login.
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Okay ViciouZ...
The 3vs3Cup Tournament server is ONLINE and ready for use:
GRaFFiTi PainT ={Tournament}=
69.93.11.66:27910
password: 3v3cup - login: mapchange
If you need an admin login email me and I'll set YOU ONLY up with a password. Make sure to test the server to make sure it meets your needs and email me if you have any other concerns.
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45% of group matches played so far, pick up the pace please, group phase ends in sunday.
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Playoffs:
A finals (1-4)
cD vs Starz
CC vs 20ID
B finals (5-8)
- vs MeMi
Qehs vs aT
C final (9-10)
LC vs -
Was an intense group phase. Im sorry that Ij and the nubbins left the cup so the group II had only 3 teams. Had a long discussion with muffdiver this morning about the future cups and i am sure with his help i can organize a perfect tournament. Now to all of those who say this is a badly run tournament: a tournament is about the game and about the played playing the game, a perfect tournament is a tournament where no directors, referees are needed.
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OMG...the only match we really wanted to do is the only we didnt(20ID)...
GG all and ty blaa for the iniciative!
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I really wished we could participate. We sat around just about everynight and asked every clan to match, except the germans, because none were on irc. The only clan that asked us to match was aT, but it was a school day. Next cup would be much more organized and fair if matches had a set time.
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could someone explain to me why the group phase was ended after 3 of 4 matches have been played? MeMi has not had the chance to play against AllStarz, which would be the decider for #2, and obviously LC has not played against 20ID yet.
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The group phase ended because there was a deadline. (and you missed it.)
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So we lost because AllStarz didnt match us?
Thats funny :D
Neither we nor they asked each other for a match...so they have won the match about the second rang without beating us?
Hilarious,thought this would be a serious tournament.
We'll remember next time
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They didnt won u i think...simply u could have won 2,5 points and so could they...i think they are just in 2nd because they won 1 map against er33t and u didnt...
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Actually i guess you did not understand...
we hadnt got the chance to match against AllStarz because of the time constraints...
But im not mad at Allstarz,i am just wondering,why those guys organize a tournament...
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then as i said u didnt lost against allstarz u just didnt match so nobody won...ur 3rd because u lost 2 maps against er33t...
but i also think that they should have waited for us to end all matches...
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But you could also say that you knew the time constraints set out before hand, and should have matched in that time. Blaa is just sticking to his original plan, the experience will be good for him if he decides to organise more tournaments.
(by his own admission he didn't expect to create anything near another pbcup, we should offer our support for a someting lots of players must have been wanting or no one would have signed up).
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just a little update:
1st place:20id or cd vs starz
2nd place:20id or cd vs starz
3rd place:cc or cd vs starz
4th place:cc or cd vs starz
5th place:at or memi
6th place:at or memi
7th place:QeHs
8th place:[LC]
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When will the dead linel be,so that Allstarz wins automatically? -.-
iike usually...oh wait,i forgot,cD is your clan ;) i understood
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Alpha, I don't think Allstarz won. The match was void, no one got points for it.
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quit lekky...already tried to explain that 2 times...
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Alpha, I don't think Allstarz won. The match was void, no one got points for it.
Yes I know,but you cant get a team through the final rounds without winning ;)