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Title: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 08, 2006, 10:28:04 PM
We already had some complaints about language used.

Now the latest hyped  map has an orgy scene in it. And people routinely play with names like Penis, or a million variants on the them, girl thingy face, etc. (I notice the word is even blocked here.)

It is ridiculous.

This is not the way to build the community. Unless of course you want more of  the freakish folks who hang out in the server  and talk about how they just touched their balls and the smell is turning them on, some random discussion of a girl endorsing  prostate milking, etc...actual conversation last night on Super's server. (When Super was on he discouraged it. I tried to get the guy to drop it  later too, and eventually he just sat there in observer mode and was fairly quiet).

You already had one kid rumored to have been told he couldn't play because he dad saw someone comparing the match to anal rape.

Jitspoe keeps saying he is worried about poor looking graphics in maps. Well this to me is a much  bigger problem. No one will take this game seriously when we do this.

Come on folks. This is not a good thing for the game.

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 08, 2006, 10:49:33 PM
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


It's a free online multiplayer FPS game thats almost 10 years old. Who cares.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: James on November 08, 2006, 10:50:56 PM
You are officially the most insecure player in DP. Jitspoe will return for his crown someday.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: IronFist on November 08, 2006, 10:58:04 PM
I'm working on making the Ultimate Weener (tm) for DT's new map, Boobieland. The only way to have fun these days is to celebrate immaturity and weeners.

Luckily, I have the attention span to make a good, solid weener. It will probably be spinning around, so you can watch the weener spin and laugh at it. I should be able to finish it before DT's new map.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: bug on November 08, 2006, 11:08:41 PM
It's a few frickin' blue and red blocks in the shape of stickmen... if you have a problem with these "orgy scenes" you are not in any way obligated to play a map you don't like. Deal with it.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Spook on November 08, 2006, 11:12:41 PM
they are a good camping spot too, especially in crimethink. !SNIPED!
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 09, 2006, 12:52:43 AM
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


It's a free online multiplayer FPS game thats almost 10 years old. Who cares.



While the game is old it still has potential, is still being developed and could still draw a respectable community who enjoy it. But most of the first impressions are poor.

Jitspoe seems to be putting effort into promotion, so why include things that turn people off?


For all I know Jitspoe thinks it is fine.  I don't know either way. But if he is concerned about marketing then this is a poor choice. You please a few and turn off many.


Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: toM|vendettA on November 09, 2006, 02:37:31 AM
AAHHH, JACK THOMPSON (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)) PLAYS DP NOW?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Eiii on November 09, 2006, 03:37:35 AM
Oh, thanks for linking that. Jach Thompson is so unknown on the internet. :P

More on-topic, I don't think it's that bad. It's not really graphic...
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Excalibur on November 09, 2006, 03:48:16 AM
i have to agree with m7feettall it just shows how immature the community is and we wont be able to get new members till some of us grow up.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: JOE on November 09, 2006, 11:05:13 AM
wow, as if you all didnt know that DT's signature on most of his maps is some sort of sex scene...look at carpathian, crimething, the unibonger map.  Its not like this is a 'new' thing for him to do in a map, and it provides a bit of comin relief.  Not to mention that he is undoubtedly the best active map maker around for match maps, so give it a rest kid.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 09, 2006, 11:22:58 AM
If you dont like it, dont play it.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 09, 2006, 11:57:37 AM
I wish I could bring my maturity level up to that of Excalibur's.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 09, 2006, 12:23:34 PM
wow, as if you all didnt know that DT's signature on most of his maps is some sort of sex scene...look at carpathian, crimething, the unibonger map.  Its not like this is a 'new' thing for him to do in a map, and it provides a bit of comin relief.  Not to mention that he is undoubtedly the best active map maker around for match maps, so give it a rest kid.

A. Previous instances of poor choices do not excuse current ones. No I was not  aware of the other scenes. That hardly makes me think this one is alright.

B. If the best mapper in the community were a pedaphile who was using the game to hunt down kiddies would you still think we should avoid offending him because of  his skills? You either have standards or you don't. It doesn't matter if he is the best mapper or not.  If anything your best mapper should be the one most wanting this game to go forward, because more people will enjoy his creations if the game prospers.

C. The issue again is how people will view this community. It only takes a few comments  to stop certain folks from downloading the game who might otherwise enjoy it. I have seen these types of comments before for games on download sites.

D. Here in your own words is what we don't want people thinking of the community:

http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=3295.msg38912#msg38912

Quote from: Joe
The problem with this community is simply that EVERYONE (yes that means you) is immature.  I dont care if you're 45 or if you're 12, I can probubly pull up Logs from IRC that show you acting like a child.  The servers are not a problem, they are there, they get used, any complains are handled by server admins reletivley quickly.  I believe to fix this community would be an extremley difficult task.  People tend to bash on dp because of our immature nature.  If people would just act their age and learn to speak to each other in a respectful manner, everything would get solved.  I'm not trying to ound like a hyprocrit (sp?) here because I too act like a crying 10yr old at times as well.

This game attracts players with such a vide range in age, if everyone would just act more mature there would be no problems in the community.  Even if the older players (people who have been playing for a long time -or- people who are lets say 18+) should really just act like respectable people and I'm sure the community will improve. 

This is just one more symptom. The fighting, flaming, hacking, swearing and constant references to sexual acts will turn off people who just want a fun game to play.


Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: jitspoe on November 09, 2006, 12:52:31 PM
I don't find DT's sex scenes appropriate, and I think I've said once before that they keep his maps from being included in any official releases.  I have a bit of a compromise for this map, though.  I let DT have his middle school mentality fun and added a setting in the next version to remove it if server admins find it inappropriate.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: toM|vendettA on November 09, 2006, 01:54:45 PM
How does it do that jitspoe?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Excalibur on November 09, 2006, 02:09:29 PM
what i would do tom is bring the map up on bsp take the scene out then write a script (me write a script yea right) that if the script is there it pulls out the map with out the scene. but then again we all know I'm not smart. and DT i wish you could bring it up to my level too. I'm not saying there are times when I'm not immature we all are at tI'mes. what I'm saying is A) im not like that all the time and B) i would never make a map that shows that I'm immature every time its played.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 09, 2006, 02:11:01 PM
Well, bob ironfist, tom, spook, joe, smokey, bug, myself, and far more members of the community: I guess we're all on the level of middle schoolers for finding stickmen sex scenes funny.

Since considerably more people in the community find the scenes funny than don't (add the fact that these aren't pub newbies) I guess the majority of the community is stuck in middle school still. It's too bad a game of such heights and depths could attract so many middle schoolers </sarcasm>.

True Excal: any map you made would probably have one path and all autocockers + steel barrels; a mapping style that exhumes maturity. In fact, your excellent spelling grammar skills are a testament to you being a pillar of maturity.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: coLa on November 09, 2006, 02:16:03 PM
keep in mind that the majority or the community is still in their early teen years. how mature do you actually expect them to be. i don't see anything wrong for the older players to act immature every now and then. i mean if you were mature 24/7 365 what kind of life you would have? I'd say that is pretty boring in my own opinion. i agree with this topic but its a free online game and without filters and other stuff there is not much we can really do about it.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 09, 2006, 02:19:09 PM
"i mean if you were mature 24/7 365 what kind of life you would have?" <-- jitspoe's.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: coLa on November 09, 2006, 02:20:59 PM
haha
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: jitspoe on November 09, 2006, 02:49:08 PM
My life is awesome.  You should try it some time. :)

As for the "how", I just converted the orgy brushes to a func_wall entity that can be removed from the game code.

I think everyone has their own opinion on what's acceptable and what isn't.  The question is, where do you draw the line?

- Sexual innuendos.
- Stick figure porn.
- Drawn/animated porn.
- Photographed/video taped porn.
- Bestiality.
- Scat.
- Snuff.

"The game is 10 years old.  Who cares if I put scat porn in my map?  My friends and I think it's funny."

Of course, I wouldn't put it past DT to do that, either...
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Bling on November 09, 2006, 02:50:54 PM
This thread is useless.. The map is the greatest ever and I masturbated to the porn room, problems?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: jitspoe on November 09, 2006, 02:52:25 PM
problems?
Sounds like it.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Bling on November 09, 2006, 03:02:47 PM
Lol it was a joke..
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 09, 2006, 03:41:02 PM
I don't find DT's sex scenes appropriate, and I think I've said once before that they keep his maps from being included in any official releases.  I have a bit of a compromise for this map, though.  I let DT have his middle school mentality fun and added a setting in the next version to remove it if server admins find it inappropriate.

I understand the difficult position you are in. But when people log in to play the game they don't know what you find appropriate . All they know is what you allow. They know what they see.

My wife started playing  the game with me on LAN and I was about to get her to play online. But she saw the stupid things people say on there continually and now has no interest. We certainly would not let our kids play this game.

Yes, it may well be that a large percentage of the community thinks it is great. But that may be because the percentage that don't think such things ingame are great have already left.

The map is not the main issue. It is one example. The problem is the whole community lives up to the standard set. And right now in this regard there is no standard set.

As a military friend used to tell me, "the doers do what the checkers check." If you don't have any plan to check it then it will happen, and your name will be associated with it, whether it is in the official release or not. It is the same as the ugly maps you are concerned about on the public servers that  get downloaded immediately.

A system that dissuaded such behavior, just as we dissuade cheating, would lessen this a lot. And it would leave a better impression. Then parents wouldn't have to worry about their kids playing, etc.



Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: bug on November 09, 2006, 03:47:29 PM
A system that dissuaded such behavior, just as we dissuade cheating, would lessen this a lot. And it would leave a better impression. Then parents wouldn't have to worry aobut their kids playing, etc.

A system to dissuade bad behaviour? Rep++

(add the fact that these aren't pub newbies)

I'm not a pub newbie?! BOOYAH!
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 09, 2006, 04:24:32 PM
Furthermore, all the maps that have brush porn in them have it either hidden behind a misted wall, or only accessed via a difficult jump. It's not like the brush porn is there in your face everytime you spawn. You certainly can choose not to look at it and you'll never have too.

You guys need to lighten up.

To my knowledge, most of the people find it a fun and entertaining 'secret' to the map. I'd rather most of DP get a chuckle out of it, (definitely more here than 'my friends,' I have many enemies in the game that still find it funny) than sell out and delete it so my map can be packaged with DP.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: SkateR on November 09, 2006, 04:31:53 PM
I myself am offended by brush orgies. Anyone, and everyone who puts this in their map is a complete disgrace to this game. I say we have more rez and unibonger made maps.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: P!nk on November 09, 2006, 04:38:49 PM
A system that dissuaded such behavior, just as we dissuade cheating, would lessen this a lot. And it would leave a better impression. Then parents wouldn't have to worry about their kids playing, etc.

In that case, an ignore all command would be quite handy, if not fix it entirely. I've found that any ideas involving a "system" of this nature are easy to say, but once you really think about it, difficult to make. And what you're bringing up is what Loial said some time ago; that similar punishments should be placed on people for what they say, not just what they do. That was one long gaylord of a thread.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 09, 2006, 05:09:55 PM
I have been to a number of forums, games, etc. that did enforce such things. It is all a matter of what you want to do.

If folks just controlled themselves, which I have seen few settings where they do, then you wouldn't need such things. Yet almost every element of society has its rules, its sanctions, etc.

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: doughz on November 09, 2006, 05:19:54 PM
I'm extremely disappointed in DT's choice of porn in his latest map. I didn't see any horses or chode action going on, and I almost cried.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 09, 2006, 06:40:59 PM
I have been to a number of forums, games, etc. that did enforce such things. It is all a matter of what you want to do.

If folks just controlled themselves, which I have seen few settings where they do, then you wouldn't need such things. Yet almost every element of society has its rules, its sanctions, etc.


Thats what makes this game so enjoyable, the community. If you think that you're going to change it, good luck. We ALL(well most of us) have a really good sense of humor, and we realize that its a GAME


Chill out...
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Spook on November 09, 2006, 07:58:59 PM
DT needs to step up his maps though... add some movement to those stickmen.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: bug on November 09, 2006, 10:53:44 PM
I have an old jump map that rewards you with porn textures for every level. Too bad the women (or men... if you lose a lot) look like bullspit with .WAL textures.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: TinMan on November 09, 2006, 11:40:32 PM
Play Quake3, XCM maps teach you how to do trick jumps and reward you with awesome rooms w/ pics and Bob Marley music. kthnx
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: toM|vendettA on November 10, 2006, 12:11:47 PM
The fact of the matter is that if you don't know they are their, chances are very high that you wont find them. They are easter eggs, game developers include them in games all the time. Most notably the Hot-Coffee mod on GTA allowed you to play some sex mini-game (or something like that), this caused it to get ALL sorts of attention over the internet. Quake 3 had easter eggs, http://www.eeggs.com/tree/922.html, some where peoples heads were chopped off. Whats worse? A dead, severed head or two humans mating?

Maybe when global login systems come around it will automatically take stuff out like that if you are under 18, but honestly, who cares? I saw it once and havent been back since.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: coLa on November 10, 2006, 02:04:04 PM
ignore # or ignore all
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Eiii on November 10, 2006, 02:51:07 PM
The fact of the matter is that if you don't know they are their, chances are very high that you wont find them. They are easter eggs, game developers include them in games all the time. Most notably the Hot-Coffee mod on GTA allowed you to play some sex mini-game (or something like that), this caused it to get ALL sorts of attention over the internet. Quake 3 had easter eggs, http://www.eeggs.com/tree/922.html, some where peoples heads were chopped off. Whats worse? A dead, severed head or two humans mating?

Maybe when global login systems come around it will automatically take stuff out like that if you are under 18, but honestly, who cares? I saw it once and havent been back since.

The hot coffee mod was NOT an easter egg- it wasn't even in the game. The only way you could get to it would be to mod the game/console, which is against the EULA, which means they can't get in trouble for it.

Oh wait, people are retarded. Forgot about that for a second. Well, it's a good thing that it's AO now. All those 17 year olds who were playing before are safe.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: TinMan on November 10, 2006, 02:53:27 PM
The Hot Coffee mod was in GTA:SA for PC, it wasn't a mod really, it was an EASTER EGG in the game. All you needed was to edit your savegames or config files to see it.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: SkateR on November 10, 2006, 03:14:10 PM
m7feettall: Why wouldn't let your kids play it? Man, sooner or later they are going to find out what sex is, and hopefully perform it some day. It's inevitable, stop being so uptight. You know what it was like to be a kid/teenager. Get over it man, stop being a stuck up old snob.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 10, 2006, 03:32:04 PM
m7feettall: Why wouldn't let your kids play it? Man, sooner or later they are going to find out what sex is, and hopefully perform it some day. It's inevitable, stop being so uptight. You know what it was like to be a kid/teenager. Get over it man, stop being a stuck up old snob.

Skater,

My kids do not need to learn about sex from a video game. Yes, they will one day learn of it, and likely engage in it. But I would prefer they perform it in ways that will leave no regrets and not result in them ruining their lives. I prefer that when they perform it in a way that cements the love they have for their spouse, not to get some kicks and perhaps some diseases along with it, and memories and comparisons that last all their life and cause needless jealousy and discontent. I would prefer they not be like the people I talk to all the time in counseling who had kids out of wedlock or in High School and never got to get their life together. I would prefer they not build a view of sex that is only about their own pleasure and eventually hurt all of those around them through sexual addiction or infidelity. I would prefer they not have an abortion only to in later life feel the pain of realizing that they no longer think it was just a medical procedure.

Skater, I talk to people with screwed up lives constantly in my work who wish they could change the past, wish they could change their mistakes in regards to sex and selfishness. And I will never see this the same way you do right now. I only hope you don't have a change of perspective the hard way.

Now if Jitspoe really wants to make this game a sex education class put on by teenagers, then I am sure he can include that in the description he puts on all the free download sites. But it is not there. Instead it promises a fast paced paintball game. That is what it should be.

I have no problem with jokes in general. Jokes need not include sexual elements in them.  It has been pointed out that most of the community is in thier teen years. Many are below 18. There is no reason to have sexuality and profanity all throughout this game.

 

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: SkateR on November 10, 2006, 03:36:53 PM
Do you honestly feel stick figures having sex is going to scar them for life? Cause them to get an abortion? Cause them to get addicted to sex? Jesus man, just stop.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 10, 2006, 03:39:32 PM
Do you honestly feel stick figures having sex is going to scar them for life? Cause them to get an abortion? Cause them to get addicted to sex? Jesus man, just stop.

Skater, do you have any concept of the addictive cycle?

What do you think makes a man have sex with a dog that has been dead 5 days as in the article that Jitspoe posted? Usually one of two things, either mental illness, or addiction.

In the addictive cycle every small step leads to a desire for more. It is the nature of addiction. It can start an any level and unchecked often spirals down from there, leading to more and more bizarre behaviors to get the same high.

Some don't. Some control it. But those in the addictive cycle often find them going to greater and greater lengths just as chemical addicts need more and more of the substance and do anything to get it.

The majority of addictions are traced back to early life. They start wtih exposure of some form to the substance. In the case of stick figure porn or someone in our channel talking about anal sex or prostate milking it is quite simple to see how that might happen.

We live in a google age. It is nothing to type  terms in and see what they are. And once they do that they are exposed to pornography which may or may not rule their life for years to come and eventually lead to acting out in more destructive ways.


Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 10, 2006, 03:55:30 PM
"Now if Jitspoe really wants to make this game a sex education class put on by teenagers, then I am sure he can include that in the description he puts on all the free download sites. But it is not there. Instead it promises a fast paced paintball game. That is what it should be."

lmfao.


Yes, here is the sentance I think we should include. I tried to keep it brief, as I know space is short in such venues:

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In addition to these feature you will also be treated to the in-game discussions of regulars like imalamp who discuss how his  friends suggest he finger his ass, and Ratsalad who contnually lauds his naked state to a mostly male audience.

That certainly would be the apex of the marketing campaign.




Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 10, 2006, 04:17:52 PM
m7feettall: Why wouldn't let your kids play it? Man, sooner or later they are going to find out what sex is, and hopefully perform it some day. It's inevitable, stop being so uptight. You know what it was like to be a kid/teenager. Get over it man, stop being a stuck up old snob.

Skater,

My kids do not need to learn about sex from a video game. Yes, they will one day learn of it, and likely engage in it. But I would prefer they perform it in ways that will leave no regrets and not result in them ruining their lives. I prefer that when they perform it in a way that cements the love they have for their spouse, not to get some kicks and perhaps some diseases along with it, and memories and comparisons that last all their life and cause needless jealousy and discontent. I would prefer they not be like the people I talk to all the time in counseling who had kids out of wedlock or in High School and never got to get their life together. I would prefer they not build a view of sex that is only about their own pleasure and eventually hurt all of those around them through sexual addiction or infidelity. I would prefer they not have an abortion only to in later life feel the pain of realizing that they no longer think it was just a medical procedure.

Skater, I talk to people with screwed up lives constantly in my work who wish they could change the past, wish they could change their mistakes in regards to sex and selfishness. And I will never see this the same way you do right now. I only hope you don't have a change of perspective the hard way.

Now if Jitspoe really wants to make this game a sex education class put on by teenagers, then I am sure he can include that in the description he puts on all the free download sites. But it is not there. Instead it promises a fast paced paintball game. That is what it should be.

I have no problem with jokes in general. Jokes need not include sexual elements in them.  It has been pointed out that most of the community is in thier teen years. Many are below 18. There is no reason to have sexuality and profanity all throughout this game.

 


Poor, poor kids of yours, they're going to need therapy just from having such strict parents.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 10, 2006, 04:34:35 PM
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If you don't like it, don't play it.

You guys have your head so far up your asses that you completely forgot about those people who can not control such feelings that or you don't care. More obvious is that not one of you has been anal raped or made to watch your mother be beaten raped and murder. You insensitive idiots please get a clue about other people you have never met. God! Retards all of ya.

Taco,
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If theres one thing people don't want to do in political/moral debates, it's critically think about their views
. Are you critically thinking about your views? I looked and all I see is taunting of someone who has a valid complaint.

Having crap like that on a game enhances it how?

WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM BOYS? Cant grow up and want something better for the game? IF you don't give a excrement wtf are you posting for?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 10, 2006, 04:40:34 PM
 


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Poor, poor kids of yours, they're going to need therapy just from having such strict parents.


Children are not harmed by structure. They are harmed by lack of love. Children with no structure KNOW they are not loved because their parents can't even care enough to set guidelines. They just let them do whatever they want as long as they don't get in their way while they are watching tv, drinking themselves into a stupor, etc.

Some kids rebell over rules. But usually when they are simply applied without love.

Now society at large is not the same as a family.  They have rules and that is the way it is. Try telling your boss that you porn is a legitimate way to spend your time at work. Try swearing like a sailor on a job interview, etc.

Life has standards.

If this game doesn't it will suffer the same social stigma that other places without standards face.


Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 10, 2006, 04:41:39 PM
Sounds like several kids that post here.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 10, 2006, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: loial21

 More obvious is that not one of you has been anal raped or made to watch your mother be beaten raped and murder.

A good point. Not many who have experienced rape personally or among those they love will want to listen to that repeated type of comment.

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 10, 2006, 05:01:28 PM
M7 Thank you. If you will notice this..... I
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if theres one thing people don't want to do in political/moral debates, it's critically think about their views
I doubt you will see any of this. They are the bane of any progress in this game. All they want to do is look cool and rip on each other.

Smokey if you have seen this, you certainly would not promote anything like this. So please stop lying Kid Clueless. Good luck in life bud. You sucking so far.


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My friends and I think it's funny
Then like a good snuff film keep it between your friends. I don't recall you thinking UNI's map about you, was all that funny, matter of fact I recall you act like you had a rash that caused sores on your taco.  Funny how when the rolls are reversed its not so funny. LOL

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: P!nk on November 10, 2006, 05:06:54 PM
Jitspoe has already said that it's likely he'll find a way to remove this horridishis content that will ruin our lives forever. So there's a check, no need to argue over that with anyone. As for profanity, that's an iffy subject. There's been 2-3 threads on that so far, I guess I'll mention two things:

Vote kick! That's right, it's in many other games, and we already have map voting. Or vote mute, which means no one could hear him/her, whether they want to or not. That way, if the majority finds an individual offensive/annoying, it will be taken care of. Though I can see vote kick (which would actually be a tempban, obviously) being abused to the max on newbies. (Then again, you could let admins select a few trusted players and allow them alone to initiate vote kicks.)

edit: Loial, since you're always talking about forum tempbans, allow me to point out the irony of you calling someone a retard and saying they suck at life [so far].
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 10, 2006, 05:19:23 PM
Good intentions. Wont happen. I applaud that post and ask for something to be done.

You must respect other peoples views. If you can't do this. There is a place in the REAL WORLD for people like this. Its called jail or death. Depends on your culture.

To say it will ruin there lives out of jest is just another affirmation of ones maturity. Clearly its not the all inclusive reason, there never is just one. Its many and this could be one of many.

Don't you care? If you don't go play with taco I am sure its a fun map. I will even play it. But I will not support its public release.


*Smokey
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sorry that i only read 1-2 lines of your post's, I'm not going to waste my time.

You are not sorry stop lying and being lazy and avoiding a mature conversation. Boy.

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: pinobot on November 10, 2006, 05:25:55 PM
Where's Dr. Phil when we need him?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 10, 2006, 05:27:11 PM
Who needs him? Just use common sense and think of other people. Thats all it takes.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: P!nk on November 10, 2006, 05:33:57 PM
(http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs11/300W/i/2006/190/e/6/Oh_Noes_teh_Forum_Drama_by_MythTrainerInfinity.png)
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 10, 2006, 05:42:45 PM
No drama for me I like pointing out a lack of common sense. :)
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: James on November 10, 2006, 07:54:16 PM
Half of these posts say sex in them. I DEMAND THAT THEY BE REMOVED.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: SkateR on November 10, 2006, 07:59:14 PM
Bix's father will not be pleased by such posts, STRIKE AGAINST DP FORUM LANGUAGE.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 10, 2006, 09:35:49 PM
Quote from: P!nk
Or vote mute, which means no one could hear him/her, whether they want to or not.

That would not be a bad idea. A filter in game would work, or even a customizable one as we discussed before. But for those who evade filters the mute would be helpful.

Or some sort of function, and I don't really know if it is possible, that would report to admins a questionable line of discussion and would automatically save the consol logs. Maybe they are already saved, I am not sure.

As for the maps that is really Jitspoe's call of what he allows.


Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 10, 2006, 09:57:48 PM
Quote from: P!nk
Or vote mute, which means no one could hear him/her, whether they want to or not.

That would not be a bad idea. A filter in game would work, or even a customizable one as we discussed before. But for those who evade filters the mute would be helpful.

Or some sort of function, and I don't really know if it is possible, that would report to admins a questionable line of discussion and would automatically save the consol logs. Maybe they are already saved, I am not sure.

As for the maps that is really Jitspoe's call of what he allows.



iv got an idea!

*gets to a coding a test version!*
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 10, 2006, 10:06:34 PM
lmao loial, you take a quote from one of my posts that isn't relevant to this thread. Using your highly refined loial-logic you try and use it to call me a hypocrite. I'll repeat myself:

You people make me laugh.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 10, 2006, 11:20:10 PM
If I may quote you " in political/moral debates, it's critically think about their views" How is this not a morality debate?

If you don't agree then at least provide some substance other then 'its loial logic, nuf said'. Is that all you have to stand on? MY LOGIC?

Like I said before you used to be cool and I haven't changed. Whats your basic malfunction these days?

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IRC 11/10/06
[17:41] <l21> one thing people don't want to do in political/moral debates, it's critically think about their views, does this apply to you? :) thanks lord taco....
[17:46] <l21> sorry to rush I will be back and give you more time to figure it out. Thanks.


Just let me know when you wish to debate this in private like gentlemen. We will start with your statement of hypocrisy. I will be waiting. Thank you.

I am not laughing just curious at the hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Lunatic on November 11, 2006, 12:10:00 PM
I read the first 2 pages to this thread, only to see the same thing repeated by 4-5 people over and over again so I stopped there.

DT's sex scenes have been in a few of his maps, so I don't know why it is suddenly wrong to do it now. Oh well.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Excalibur on November 11, 2006, 12:36:11 PM
lunatic its always been wrong. m7feettall just only saw this one. i have only seen 1 and i dont even remember the map. the scenes are no big deal because like DT did say they are hidden and Jit is working on getting rid of them. the main problem is the cussing and the language used in the game.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 11, 2006, 03:25:13 PM
Given my limited jumping ability I didn't see the crime think one.

But the other I stumbled across in about 10 minutes of practicing on the map.

I agree that as a general rule the language in game is a bigger issue. But both are related to the lack of any rules in this regard.



Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Lunatic on November 11, 2006, 03:30:31 PM
Welcome to the Jungle.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 11, 2006, 04:10:39 PM
Thanks, I had already experienced the jungle. Games are to get away from the jungle.

Now if this had been a game that featured sex, theft, violence etc. then I would expect that and not bother to play.  But since this was a paintball game, I expect a paintball game.





Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Excalibur on November 11, 2006, 04:54:37 PM
what we could do is have a chat filter in game (i think its good no matter what) then have the main irc channel that does not allow such talk. then have a channel for adults or those that want to hear that talk #paintballadult anyone?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: IronFist on November 11, 2006, 05:03:47 PM
You've got it all wrong. We need the Kindergarden Zone!

A special sub-serverlist, servers that don't allow chatting, they are limited to a specific subset of maps, and nobody can have a name other than "newbie1", "newbie2", etc.

Letting children play online games is a bad idea to begin with. If you are easily offended, you shouldn't play online games, because people will say/do whatever they want.

You should especially not play online games if they promote custom content, because you're going to see something that offends you or something that removes the wholesomeness from your child's mind at some point.

This doesn't mean that swearing and humping sticks is necessarily good, but it does mean that you should reconsider your continued use of the Internet.

Also, you need to complain to server owners, if anybody. You could also get together and rent a server from Jitspoe, called "The morally right server", which would be quite the morally correct place to play. You could just keep heathens banned and run maps fit for Jesus himself!
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: JiGSaW on November 11, 2006, 10:27:30 PM
So where is this orgy scene?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 12, 2006, 12:06:50 PM
So where is this orgy scene?
lmao, no clip the map.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: XtremeBain on November 12, 2006, 12:51:02 PM
Quote from: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp
Online Rating Notice

Online games that include user-generated content (e.g., chat, maps, skins) carry the notice "Game Experience May Change During Online Play" to warn consumers that content created by players of the game has not been rated by the ESRB.

Put that on a splash page when you try to download the game.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 13, 2006, 12:38:19 PM
Quote from: Excalibur
then have a channel for adults or those that want to hear that talk #paintballadult anyone?

Or they could just go to a real sex-chat room instead of a paintball game. Then they might actually talk to a woman instead of sex chatting teenage boys.


As to bug's comment, which was apparently deleted, If I am  perceived as trying to impose my view, are not you doing the same? You say that everyone should have to put up with anything that anyone does--harmful to others or not. And if I don't like that I should leave (or Loial, or others).

That is in fact imposing your view. Although in this case your standard also does the following:


a. offends those who have been raped, since that term is used all the time in-game
b. offends those who don't come here for a sex chat room
c. might be illegal in certain locations if it involves adults talking to under-age kids in a sexual manner.
d. Would not be allowed in most public settings.

So I don't feel at all bad for suggesting a different standard than that. Everyone wants to impose, you might as well at least impose something that does not offend people needlessly. That was the point of my question--is this the impression you want to give?

And if it is then you are limiting the game.



Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: SkateR on November 13, 2006, 12:45:04 PM
I'd personally rather talk to young teenage boys.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 13, 2006, 12:46:00 PM
I'd personally rather talk to young teenage boys.

Then check in game, I am sure on of them  can find you a sex chat room for little boys.

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: DaRkNeSS on November 13, 2006, 02:07:11 PM
I just read the whole thing, and I agree with m7feettall.  The language is terrible (I'm part of that problem) and the sex scenes are totally uncalled for.  Why would you waste time making little stick figures having sex so you can put them in a map?  DT says everyone thinks it's funny but it seems to me the only people who are laughing are er33t or er33t suck-ups (SkateR, Smokey, etc).

Can you please express your points without attacking/name calling/inappropriate comments?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 13, 2006, 02:25:30 PM
Why did my post get deleted? It wasn't offending anyone. This is like a new level of Na.zi ism
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: jitspoe on November 13, 2006, 03:03:40 PM
Why did my post get deleted? It wasn't offending anyone. This is like a new level of Na.zi ism
Pointless off-topic posts have been deleted on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 13, 2006, 03:05:32 PM
It had a point, it was indirectly showing loial and everyone else in this post that i was completely ignoring them.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Lunatic on November 13, 2006, 08:51:57 PM
Why can I not find this in the map version that I have? How mentally retarded am I?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Bix on November 14, 2006, 09:37:26 AM
Lunatic, here is a ss showing the location. THere is a rock at the backdoor flag, just walk into the wall there  :o

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/lcattman/Show.jpg)
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: rez on November 14, 2006, 10:03:53 AM
Lol DT.  What would your boy Freud think about this.  He'd say that your fixation on adulterous sex scenes is due to a diminutive member.  Or maybe Erin isn't putting out enough?  Keep all of your perverted excrement to yourself.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 14, 2006, 12:10:44 PM
Referencing Freud from your high school psych class that you probably failed. Guess what, Freud wasn't infallible, and most contemporary psychologists don't assent to any of his theories.

Interesting that you'd claim such nonsense, given that your boy Uni went to far greater lengths to create sex scenes that included wolves (that moved) sodomizing people. Not to mention putting pictures of his own penis (or so he said) on digi's picture and then creating a ytmnd with it. I wonder what m7feettall would have to say about that.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: jitspoe on November 14, 2006, 12:39:24 PM
He never released that map, though, and it was in response to a map you made.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 14, 2006, 01:18:45 PM
Actually bob made it, i just copy/pasted it. I don't know the first thing about creating objects that move in maps.

Furthermore, what i copy pasted was a few simple brushes that barely even resemble anything human. Uni edited our pictures and turned them into textures so we specifically were the ones being sodomized.

I'm not sure how you define 'released' but it definitely seemed like a completed map and if I was able to obtain a copy of it, then it seems that anyone could have...
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: jitspoe on November 14, 2006, 02:05:08 PM
Did you feel it was inappropriate, or are you just using the, "At least what I did isn't as bad as ..." routine?  By the way, where did you get a copy of the map?  Uni said he deleted it after I told him it was inappropriate.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 14, 2006, 02:13:10 PM
Uni's cronies pasted the link to it all around mIRC. A server admin could've easily uploaded it to a server if they'd so pleased.

I don't think its inappropriate, i think its funny. When i saw what uni did in his map i laughed. I didn't take it seriously until it needed to be taken seriously. I never expected urnsmap to actually be played on servers. I only had it uploaded so her and I could jump around in it. I added it to the great maplist vote as a joke not thinking any server admin in the right mind would actually play it (although who knows it might actually be a fun four team map).
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: James on November 14, 2006, 08:01:06 PM
Lmafo, like you delete my posts that clearly go with the topic, but don't delete the other ones. You're a bundle of twigs.

Anyhoo... My sweet map was a dedication map to infamous shmue.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: rez on November 14, 2006, 09:36:29 PM
UNi @ rez's

"jitspoe dont ask me to register, its not going to happen"



DT:
actually bro. the fact is I did create the picture of digi.. but i only sent it to one person.. and he is the one who made the ytmnd. not me. quit spreeding your lies, or get your facts straight. Besides GWB told me you loved the arabian music on it..... but honestly what does that have to do with dp a ytmnd, your such a hater lol, btw its called func_train to move objects im sure a l33t mapper like you know that...

and yeah that is my piece on digi's head. *photoshop takes 10 pounds off of it though*

why are you still speaking of me. Jesus are you that obsessed with me, oh yeah you are.. ALL BECAUSE I SHOT YOU IN A GAME.. LMAO...
even better. jitspoe was there and saw it all go down...

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaaaaa.

and yeah jitspoe unfortunately someone put my map on  some uploading website and sent it around. thats where dirtytaco got it from.

sorryz jitspoe, I should of known better.

To bad i don't know who it is. seems I've been dealing with a bunch of two faced individuals for sometime. dirtytaco who gave you the map, and why did you accept it, and why did you not inform jittspoe that someone was going around doing it????


if you wouldn't start sh*t, there wouldn't be sh*t. its soo simple.
even a 5 year old could undstand it.








Furthermore, what i copy pasted was a few simple brushes that barely even resemble anything human. Uni edited our pictures and turned them into textures so we specifically were the ones being sodomized.

oh wow all 12 minutes i spent creating a generic fur tile with eye candy and actually adding a few brushes into a old map i made 3 years ago and animating it. oh wow thats like allmost 2 hardcore of dedication! OMG I DID LIKE GO ALL THE WAY!!! TO THE EXTREME MAX! *breaks a tequila bottle over his head and yells, "TO THE EXTREME!"*

Quote:
Brian from halfbaked: You're A dork. maaan"
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: TinMan on November 14, 2006, 09:38:03 PM
There's a purple penis hidden in bombsaway.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: IronFist on November 14, 2006, 09:44:58 PM
DirtyTaco, let's take pictures of our weeners and put them in a billboard in twilight, so we can be cool like uni.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Spook on November 14, 2006, 09:45:36 PM
There's a purple penis hidden in bombsaway.
no there isn't
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Lunatic on November 14, 2006, 09:45:58 PM
!adduniquote

UNi @ rez's

"jitspoe dont ask me to register, its not going to happen"



DT:
actually bro. the fact is I did create the picture of digi.. but i only sent it to one person.. and he is the one who made the ytmnd. not me. quit spreeding your lies, or get your facts straight. Besides GWB told me you loved the arabian music on it..... but honestly what does that have to do with dp a ytmnd, your such a hater lol, btw its called func_train to move objects im sure a l33t mapper like you know that...

and yeah that is my piece on digi's head. *photoshop takes 10 pounds off of it though*

why are you still speaking of me. Jesus are you that obsessed with me, oh yeah you are.. ALL BECAUSE I SHOT YOU IN A GAME.. LMAO...
even better. jitspoe was there and saw it all go down...

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaaaaa.

and yeah jitspoe unfortunately someone put my map on  some uploading website and sent it around. thats where dirtytaco got it from.

sorryz jitspoe, I should of known better.

To bad i don't know who it is. seems I've been dealing with a bunch of two faced individuals for sometime. dirtytaco who gave you the map, and why did you accept it, and why did you not inform jittspoe that someone was going around doing it????


if you wouldn't start sh*t, there wouldn't be sh*t. its soo simple.
even a 5 year old could undstand it.








Furthermore, what i copy pasted was a few simple brushes that barely even resemble anything human. Uni edited our pictures and turned them into textures so we specifically were the ones being sodomized.

oh wow all 12 minutes i spent creating a generic fur tile with eye candy and actually adding a few brushes into a old map i made 3 years ago and animating it. oh wow thats like allmost 2 hardcore of dedication! OMG I DID LIKE GO ALL THE WAY!!! TO THE EXTREME MAX! *breaks a tequila bottle over his head and yells, "TO THE EXTREME!"*

Quote:
Brian from halfbaked: You're A dork. maaan"

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 14, 2006, 09:49:55 PM
Twilight is such an awesome map, I wish the train thing moved.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: P!nk on November 14, 2006, 09:52:59 PM
Uni, you never listened to iron's song, jeezlaweezus:

http://w4r.mserle.com/mp3s/IronFist_dpball-hardest-suckas.mp3

edit: Loial, where is S8N?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: TinMan on November 14, 2006, 09:56:09 PM
no there isn't
Haha, made you look. I remember the "red penis" of Quake 1 though, that was very disturbing.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: James on November 14, 2006, 10:05:16 PM
Funny to see Unibonger make a post with things not misspelled. High-five spellcheck.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 15, 2006, 02:24:08 AM
Same as it ever was.....same as it ever was...as the day goes by....
Once in a lifetime.


Quote
If you are easily offended, you shouldn't play online games, because people will say/do whatever they want.
:o+ ::)= :-[  Does not get online gaming for fun.


Not with logins :) and hardware / address bans.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 15, 2006, 08:11:24 AM
Quote from: loial21

Not with logins :) and hardware / address bans.

Yup. I have seen people banned from online games  for flagrant or continual obscene or abusive speech.

It is all about what the game wants to be perceived as.

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 15, 2006, 12:29:11 PM
Outside perception of a free game that almost 10 years old is what i hope is on the top of jitspoe's list.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: jitspoe on November 15, 2006, 12:53:14 PM
Quote
"jitspoe dont ask me to register, its not going to happen"
You already have an account...
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Excalibur on November 15, 2006, 01:09:04 PM
Outside perception of a free game that almost 10 years old is what i hope is on the top of jitspoe's list.

if jit did not care about the game at all, why would he keep working on it trying to make it better?
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 15, 2006, 02:36:41 PM
What are you talking about Excal? My sentence implicates that there are far more important things to deal with in DP2 prior to public relations, not that jitspoe doesn't care about the game. For example, solid cheat protection.

I figured someone as 'mature' as yourself could recognize conversational implicature.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: F3AR on November 15, 2006, 04:04:38 PM
Well Dirty, Jits is going to have to think about public relations soon after "solid cheat protection" because half of the players will quit or be banned.   :P
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 15, 2006, 04:07:35 PM
What are you talking about Excal? My sentence implicates that there are far more important things to deal with in DP2 prior to public relations, not that jitspoe doesn't care about the game. For example, solid cheat protection.

I figured someone as 'mature' as yourself could recognize conversational implicature.

Logins, which are being worked on apparently, will help with both.

 We could post the  demo which records the chat,  and Jitspoe could decide if a ban was warranted. Then those who just sit in the channel talking about sex all the time and as imalamp (or someone using that name at least) was the other night.  Whether Jitspoe has any interest in doing that is another question.

We could of course do it now the same way cheaters are dealt with, by looking at the usual ip, etc. But a login would make bans easier.



Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 15, 2006, 04:40:21 PM
What are you talking about Excal? My sentence implicates that there are far more important things to deal with in DP2 prior to public relations, not that jitspoe doesn't care about the game. For example, solid cheat protection.

I figured someone as 'mature' as yourself could recognize conversational implicature.

Logins, which are being worked on apparently, will help with both.

 We could post the  demo which records the chat,  and Jitspoe could decide if a ban was warranted. Then those who just sit in the channel talking about sex all the time and as imalamp (or someone using that name at least) was the other night.  Whether Jitspoe has any interest in doing that is another question.

We could of course do it now the same way cheaters are dealt with, by looking at the usual ip, etc. But a login would make bans easier.




stop trying to make dp into what its not, please, thanks.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 15, 2006, 04:45:03 PM
What are you talking about Excal? My sentence implicates that there are far more important things to deal with in DP2 prior to public relations, not that jitspoe doesn't care about the game. For example, solid cheat protection.

I figured someone as 'mature' as yourself could recognize conversational implicature.

Logins, which are being worked on apparently, will help with both.

 We could post the  demo which records the chat,  and Jitspoe could decide if a ban was warranted. Then those who just sit in the channel talking about sex all the time and as imalamp (or someone using that name at least) was the other night.  Whether Jitspoe has any interest in doing that is another question.

We could of course do it now the same way cheaters are dealt with, by looking at the usual ip, etc. But a login would make bans easier.




stop trying to make dp into what its not, please, thanks.

A. I  have no power to do anything. I am appealing to the one who can on the off chance that he too finds some elements of DP to be problematic.

B. If DP is all about sex chat you can do that elsewhere. If it is about friends, paintball, fun, a game  etc. then that need not change.

C. If more people are to come to this game the community must change. I am hardly the first to say that.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 15, 2006, 04:48:54 PM
What are you talking about Excal? My sentence implicates that there are far more important things to deal with in DP2 prior to public relations, not that jitspoe doesn't care about the game. For example, solid cheat protection.

I figured someone as 'mature' as yourself could recognize conversational implicature.

Logins, which are being worked on apparently, will help with both.

 We could post the  demo which records the chat,  and Jitspoe could decide if a ban was warranted. Then those who just sit in the channel talking about sex all the time and as imalamp (or someone using that name at least) was the other night.  Whether Jitspoe has any interest in doing that is another question.

We could of course do it now the same way cheaters are dealt with, by looking at the usual ip, etc. But a login would make bans easier.




stop trying to make dp into what its not, please, thanks.

A. I  have no power to do anything. I am appealing to the one who can on the off chance that he too finds some elements of DP to be problematic.

B. If DP is all about sex chat you can do that elsewhere. If it is about friends, paintball, fun, a game  etc. then that need not change.

C. If more people are to come to this game the community must change. I am hardly the first to say that.

Well, the horrible community that we have is what makes the game great, stop complaining.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 15, 2006, 04:55:23 PM
What are you talking about Excal? My sentence implicates that there are far more important things to deal with in DP2 prior to public relations, not that jitspoe doesn't care about the game. For example, solid cheat protection.

I figured someone as 'mature' as yourself could recognize conversational implicature.

Logins, which are being worked on apparently, will help with both.

 We could post the  demo which records the chat,  and Jitspoe could decide if a ban was warranted. Then those who just sit in the channel talking about sex all the time and as imalamp (or someone using that name at least) was the other night.  Whether Jitspoe has any interest in doing that is another question.

We could of course do it now the same way cheaters are dealt with, by looking at the usual ip, etc. But a login would make bans easier.




stop trying to make dp into what its not, please, thanks.

A. I  have no power to do anything. I am appealing to the one who can on the off chance that he too finds some elements of DP to be problematic.

B. If DP is all about sex chat you can do that elsewhere. If it is about friends, paintball, fun, a game  etc. then that need not change.

C. If more people are to come to this game the community must change. I am hardly the first to say that.

Well, the horrible community that we have is what makes the game great, stop complaining.

I never said it was a horrible community. I objected to some elements of it. What I suggest is to keep the good elements and get rid of the bad.

Your main objection seems to be that you want no responsibility for how you come across to others, or what harm you might do.  That to me is not a valid objection.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 15, 2006, 06:20:57 PM
What are you talking about Excal? My sentence implicates that there are far more important things to deal with in DP2 prior to public relations, not that jitspoe doesn't care about the game. For example, solid cheat protection.

I figured someone as 'mature' as yourself could recognize conversational implicature.

Logins, which are being worked on apparently, will help with both.

 We could post the  demo which records the chat,  and Jitspoe could decide if a ban was warranted. Then those who just sit in the channel talking about sex all the time and as imalamp (or someone using that name at least) was the other night.  Whether Jitspoe has any interest in doing that is another question.

We could of course do it now the same way cheaters are dealt with, by looking at the usual ip, etc. But a login would make bans easier.




stop trying to make dp into what its not, please, thanks.

A. I  have no power to do anything. I am appealing to the one who can on the off chance that he too finds some elements of DP to be problematic.

B. If DP is all about sex chat you can do that elsewhere. If it is about friends, paintball, fun, a game  etc. then that need not change.

C. If more people are to come to this game the community must change. I am hardly the first to say that.

Well, the horrible community that we have is what makes the game great, stop complaining.

I never said it was a horrible community. I objected to some elements of it. What I suggest is to keep the good elements and get rid of the bad.

Your main objection seems to be that you want no responsibility for how you come across to others, or what harm you might do.  That to me is not a valid objection.
or i just enjoy the community EXACTLY the way it is, as does alot of others.

Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: F3AR on November 16, 2006, 05:38:15 AM
Anyways, this game needs more players who can read,write and play decently, not these 10 year old kids who spam there "noob" and "camper" bind's. With the community as small as it is, you know most of the people well enough to easily annoy/make fun of them.

Which is it then, because I highly doubt you enjoy this community "exactly" how it is.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 16, 2006, 05:45:26 AM
Anyways, this game needs more players who can read,write and play decently, not these 10 year old kids who spam there "noob" and "camper" bind's. With the community as small as it is, you know most of the people well enough to easily annoy/make fun of them.

Which is it then, because I highly doubt you enjoy this community "exactly" how it is.
Thats in pubs, not in irc and clans.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Lunatic on November 16, 2006, 02:37:30 PM
or i just enjoy the community EXACTLY the way it is, as does alot of others
How could you like the "community" as it is. You make fun of just about every single person on this board, with the exception of maybe 5. There is so many annoying bundles of twigs. Therefore, I as well as you should NOT like the community.

I like maybe 10-12 people, and the rest I couldn't care less about. There is so many people I would just want to punch in the face. Especially those pub-junkies.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Smokey on November 16, 2006, 03:03:41 PM
or i just enjoy the community EXACTLY the way it is, as does alot of others
How could you like the "community" as it is. You make fun of just about every single person on this board, with the exception of maybe 5. There is so many annoying bundles of twigs. Therefore, I as well as you should NOT like the community.

I like maybe 10-12 people, and the rest I couldn't care less about. There is so many people I would just want to punch in the face. Especially those pub-junkies.
my life is over,lun hates me :(

<3
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: bug on November 16, 2006, 03:04:08 PM
User temp banned for this post.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: m7feettall on November 16, 2006, 03:22:25 PM
This thread has lost any purpose other than to add a new item on my Latest Posts list. Why don't we just agree that m7 is a moron and lock this?!

What a concept.


You can call me what you like Bug. But you can't escape realities of life. Thing you say do turn people off, do have effects. That is hurting this community. And if you practice it in life will hurt you in other ways.

The upshot of your comments, smokey's comments etc. is that you don't want any personal responsibility. You don't like the stupids things other people do. But you want complete autonomy to do whatever you want.

Well that is what happens when everyone does what they want. They all tick each other off.

Your attempts to kill the topic are just another defense mechanism. If anything actually came of this topic you might have to engage in some self control.




Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: Dirty_Taco on November 16, 2006, 04:21:41 PM
Let us pray to god that nothing does.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 16, 2006, 10:12:38 PM
Pink,
Pardon my rudeness. I did not bother to read anything but Taco's avoidance to self criticism. Tic Toc. You are too funny Taco.

Satan? He is right here (points at chest, say hello!)

Keith? IDK

I hope he is in San Antonio!

Or he could be at home. Thinking. Contemplating. Anticipating. Like ever man should.

Forgetfully yours,

Loial


*Edit.

Bug? Comon is that all you got?... squished : >:(
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: IronFist on November 16, 2006, 10:24:49 PM
Or he could be at home. Thinking. Contemplating. Anticipating. Like ever man should.

I want you now. I need you.
Title: Re: Is an orgy scene in your latest map really the impression you want to make?
Post by: loial21 on November 17, 2006, 01:38:45 AM
You need self satisfaction. Seek it.