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Paintball 2: The Game => Server Discussion => Topic started by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 09:05:22 AM

Title: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 09:05:22 AM
Me and my m8 sl4 rented servers to go jump together  the other day. We played the map jump/gxjump3, and while playing the server crashed. Servers that have crashed include super1,super2,super3,ur1,ur2,and arctic 3.
WERE CRIMINALS!!!
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 09:16:36 AM
arctic 1 just crashed
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 09:35:21 AM
Official List of Servers Crashed: All arctics, supermans, and uR's. GG WP DP
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: xrichardx on August 06, 2015, 09:42:43 AM
You know, there is an edit button. You could use it.
So you realized that this map crashes servers after some time and still continued switchting servers and loading that map again and again? Did you want to crash these servers? Do you want to get banned?

About the map: The server prints this message about once per second: "item_health_small doesn't have a spawn function"
After a rather long time it crashes, giving the following error message:
Code: [Select]
item_health_small
... (about 270 times)
item_health_small
Post this log (saved as pball/error.txt) on dplogin.com/forums for bug fixing.
********************
ERROR: Game Error: ED_Alloc: no free edicts
********************
==== ShutdownGame ====
Dumped console text to ./pball/error.txt.

I could not find anything about this in the public source so I'll assume its in the closed source part.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 09:52:57 AM
lol we wont do it again... but there goes ef 1 lmfao
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 09:59:25 AM
Why would i get banned? I didnt know the map didnt have spawn points lol
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: xrichardx on August 06, 2015, 10:02:58 AM
"lol" take a look at these.
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=10963.0
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=10713.0
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=10962.0
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=10964.0
http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=11030.0

You could have stopped after the first server, told the admin, noone would care. But you decided to do the same thing on 8 more servers, which obivously shows malicious intention.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 10:05:29 AM
All of these bans say "32 Day Ban for INTENTIONALLY Crashing servers". Mine wasnt intentional
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 10:12:50 AM
How df was i supposed to know the map was whats causing the server to crash? I thought it was just a coincidence or something else.. plus it is a really fun map.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
Sl4 and I wanted to stop crashing the match servers, but we couldnt think of how to fix it lol...
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 10:20:00 AM
If i did it on purpose, i wouldn't have started this topic. Thats a fact bud
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: MaTzeMR on August 06, 2015, 10:24:49 AM
You know, there is an edit button. You could use it.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 01:09:28 PM
Alright guys. Acheiver told me to put a different map, casbah_a1, and now ef2 just went down...
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: SuperMAn on August 06, 2015, 01:21:16 PM
My servers are back up.  I deleted gxjump3 to prevent it from happening in the future.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 02:12:03 PM
Okay thanks bro
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: Extrawelt on August 06, 2015, 05:50:46 PM
You have just done that on different servers. I guess u just want to crash all servers, cause of the "fun effect", after you have seen that 1 Server crashes on this map.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 06, 2015, 05:56:17 PM
Rofl, we thought it was a coincidence that the server crashed, so we decided to go play the map on another server(not knowing that the map was what caused it and wanting to play the map because we liked it).
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: Cameron on August 06, 2015, 10:36:14 PM
Rofl, we thought it was a coincidence that the server crashed, so we decided to go play the map on another server(not knowing that the map was what caused it and wanting to play the map because we liked it).
Honestly to deduce that the map is causing the error takes a maximum of 3 goes.  First being it crashed, lets try another one.  Second, well, maybe you used another of the same persons servers, so you leave there because that persons servers keep crashing.  You try another server owners servers.  It crashes again.  Well thats 3 servers, two owners, one map.  One common variable - the map.  Also, the fact that your first post shows you crashed 6 servers trying to play the map, and then posted again 10 minutes later that you crashed another server when you clearly knew what the issue was means that you did in fact intend on crashing the server, because you knew exactly what was going to happen.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: TRION on August 07, 2015, 05:08:22 AM
WERE CRIMINALS!!!
We're*
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: aborted on August 07, 2015, 07:01:28 AM
BAN dooci ! He did it on purpose, came in pub and said "We just crashed matching servers,enjoy html's xD"
Dooci dooci....
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: Lumixan on August 07, 2015, 07:25:06 AM
richard before you creating a blacklist wich is still useless, because you only need to change your name to noname or some not registered name, you first could check out the maps on your server ;)
dooci just tried to report a bug and if he would try to crash servers he wouldnt post it on the forum !!!
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 07, 2015, 02:35:25 PM
I swear we had no intent: The server was crashing at different times(sometimes it crashed a few moments after we put the map and others it crashed after 40 mintues of play), the map infact did have spawn points(how could we play it if it didnt have spawn points? lol), the server didnt say anything about errors when we played the map, and there we're 4 of us there(none of us knew it was map-related). Thus, we thought it was related to a lag issue. hope me or any of my friends dont get banned... as august is the last month of our summer of dp.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: technyk32 on August 07, 2015, 02:39:14 PM
I was also with sl4 and Dooci a few times, and i will say that sl4 should not be implicated in the server crashes. He wasn't telling dooci to change to that map, and also i dont think that sl4 had op. Also, as dooci said, the crashes seemed random, and there were no warnings or anything before crashing.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: ic3y on August 07, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
I swear we had no intent
Official List of Servers Crashed: All arctics, supermans, and uR's. GG WP DP
You could have stopped after the first server, told the admin, noone would care. But you decided to do the same thing on 8 more servers, which obivously shows malicious intention.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 07, 2015, 03:58:02 PM
Are you serious? This committe cant go a week without banning someone. This game is on its last limb and im one of the only active players. I put up a valid argument and I cant help you if you dont see that.  If you wanna ban me, your gonna have to ban everyone else involved(4 other people), cause i didnt change the map each time. The only thing this commmunity wants to do is kill it more, and they wanted me and my mates out. They finally got a excrement reason. Why wouldnt they capitalize? This is my favorite game and is the only computer game ive ever played.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 07, 2015, 04:26:05 PM
Summary of this: I report a bug I found and i get raped. Thanks dp.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: xrichardx on August 07, 2015, 04:41:36 PM
Use the edit button. Stop double/triple/quad-posting

First: You were not banned yet, there are just some that don't buy that you "accidentally" crashed 9 paintball servers.
Second: If you get bannedin the future, that would have happened regardless of this post. When the admins see that their servers are offline, they will check why and see that you crashed them. When they see that you crashed all their matchservers, they would have complained, so these posts are not the cause for you getting banned.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 07, 2015, 05:00:37 PM
I'm not gonna trash talk you because I know thats what you want. i put up a valid argument and thats that
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: Lumixan on August 07, 2015, 05:04:28 PM
richard you just trash talking he is trying to cooperate and you calling him a criminal server crasher
nobody said that he crashed all servers LOL hes only the person who reported the bug...
and dont be happy that you could ban ppl which just can change there name :P (best ban methods bro)
#blacklistftw
#blacklistsogood
#blacklistop
#richardgenius
#richardsoclever

Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: Toxiic on August 07, 2015, 10:45:32 PM
Moral of the story: DooCi=Mr_Kool_69=Multi-Account=Crashing Servers on purpose; Logs anyone?
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: ic3y on August 08, 2015, 01:40:59 AM
Logs anyone?
[16:53:38] [OBS] dooci: are arctics still down?
[16:53:39] [OBS] dooci: lmao
[16:53:45] m4tze: youre on arctic
[16:53:47] m4tze: tard
[16:53:47] zeNit: as you can see
[16:53:49] Tiimo: no they arent
[16:53:50] dooci: oh yea
[16:53:52] dooci: lol
[16:53:52] zeNit: they are definetly down
[16:53:56] [OBS] m4tze: kek
[16:53:58] Tiimo: xD
[16:54:08] [OBS] dooci: is gxjump3 still on it?
[16:54:09] [OBS] dooci: lmao
[16:54:22] [OBS] dooci: money on tiimo
[16:54:28] [OBS] m4tze: do you wann crash it again or what
[16:54:33] [OBS] dooci: ofc i do

Nevermind, he's just a kid.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: Lumixan on August 08, 2015, 03:17:46 AM
nobody said that he crashed all servers LOL hes only the person who reported the bug...

i dont think he crashed all servers !! So if he did it like 1-2 times i think a ban would be unfair
Everyone is thinking he crashed all servers because he reported the bug

Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: prozajik on August 08, 2015, 03:44:00 AM
Much drama.

Honestly, map that causes crashes shouldn't be online anyway. Using in-game command to crash the server is something totally different, since that's a bug in PB itself, this is more of your bad for having such a bad map and not testing what you upload to the server and you could have totally prevented that.

Does jitspoe tell you to upload q2 converted maps or w/e that map is? Not really, so there is no reason to ban him.

Btw, kind of reminds of this
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png)

Yes there are thousands of maps in PB, but mhm, that's a poor excuse isn't it? Unless you have tested all the maps and he magically found a super secret way how to exploit the map to crash the server, you shouldn't be burning dooci.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: ic3y on August 08, 2015, 04:08:23 AM
Does jitspoe tell you to upload q2 converted maps or w/e that map is? Not really, so there is no reason to ban him.
Just Dooci, Lumixan and aborted are talking about a ban.

Superman deleted the map, I did a .ent file. So all is fine, or not ?
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: Lumixan on August 08, 2015, 04:23:35 AM
Just Dooci, Lumixan and aborted are talking about a ban.

Superman deleted the map, I did a .ent file. So all is fine, or not ?
you first could check out the maps on your server ;)

i said it would be stupid if he gets a ban :)

richard said he should get a ban ^^
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: Oberhippie on August 08, 2015, 05:14:45 AM
richard said he should get a ban ^^
He warned dooci, that he COULD banned for crashing server.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: prozajik on August 08, 2015, 06:41:46 AM
Just Dooci, Lumixan and aborted are talking about a ban.

Superman deleted the map, I did a .ent file. So all is fine, or not ?
Yea, posted only because some people here were jumping the gun while not realizing some of my points I posted above.

Never accused anyone of demanding the ban, merely touched on the topic of getting banned for this.

Deleting the map(or fixing .ent) is the most sensible thing to do, so yea all good for me :p
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: xrichardx on August 08, 2015, 08:48:35 AM
This is my favorite game and is the only computer game ive ever played.
As for me, i love this game even though ive started playing other games more frequently... Many kids at my school have played it and i'll always remember it

I swear we had no intent
[16:54:08] [OBS] dooci: is gxjump3 still on it?
[16:54:09] [OBS] dooci: lmao
[16:54:28] [OBS] m4tze: do you wann crash it again or what
[16:54:33] [OBS] dooci: ofc i do

I don't know. There is something strange about this. I can't get rid of the feeling that someone in here is lying all the time. But I can't really tell why I feel that way.

Oh, and I just found out that we have a very slow person at hand. I guess a possible reason is that we are below zero (http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=27334.msg248191#msg248191).
There's an edit button - just in case you want to add something ;).


@prozajik: When giving data to a program leads to a crash, you would call that a bug. When someone intentionally feeds that data to the program to make it crash, this is obviously using that bug. This thing is no less usage of a paintball bug than using an ingame command (which admins back then also could have prevented in many different ways, by the way).

Telling admins to check every map they upload is insane (or should we also reverse engineer paintball to find out about more possible malicious ingame commands?). You wouldn't also check every students name for SQL injection attacks. "Hope you've learned to sanitize your inputs" refers to an automatic way to do that. It's the same about paintball. Fixing paintball so that it does not allocate memory without ever releasing it which leads to an error because there is no more free memory is the "right" solution. Deleting the map or making an .ent file for this specific map is a temporary fix for this specific map, but not for the bug at all. There are more maps that are similar to gxjump3 and could still be exploited if you wanted to.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 08, 2015, 09:02:15 AM
btw ic3, its interesting that you left out the rest of that dialogue, because right after i said ofc i do... i said jk. Your obviously trying to get me banned
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: ic3y on August 08, 2015, 09:47:25 AM
btw ic3, its interesting that you left out the rest of that dialogue, because right after i said ofc i do... i said jk. Your obviously trying to get me banned
Sorry that i dont use my free time to make you happy.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 08, 2015, 10:13:55 AM
yet you use your free time to get me banned roflcopter
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: ic3y on August 08, 2015, 11:09:35 AM
Just Dooci, Lumixan and aborted are talking about a ban.
Nothing more to say
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: mRokita on August 09, 2015, 07:11:27 AM
haha no jump maps at my servers =D
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: Toxiic on August 09, 2015, 11:38:48 AM
yet you use your free time to get me banned roflcopter
HI MR_Kool69 !
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 09, 2015, 03:34:07 PM
Topic Locked. This is going off topic, and the Server Crashing issue was fixed and discussed already.
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: DooCi on August 14, 2015, 02:44:00 PM
Topic unlocked to report another buggy map that all admins need to remove from their servers immediately: casbah_a1
Title: Re: Servers Crashing
Post by: xrichardx on August 14, 2015, 03:39:22 PM
Dude, stop posting the maps. It's a paintball bug, removing maps won't help unless you find all and you won't find all for sure. If you want serveradmins to know, PM them, don't call out the maps in public.
Ah whatever, why do I even care.

I guess if sk89q's webinterface was changed from using "rcon sv newmap x" to "rcon map x", it would get the server up after it was crashed with any kind of game error (which these two maps that were posted triggered). That would probably fix a lot of issues. It should work since "map" was changed so it gives an error if the map doesnt exist just like newmap. Maybe some hosters of rental servers would like to do that as a more efficient bugfix for rental servers.