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Title: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on March 31, 2015, 04:28:43 PM
Who's better, NA or EU?

So here's the deal,

I am challenging Checkmate to a 3 versus 3 clanbattle. I would like the money given to my League of Legends account, so if you could go buy a prepaid league card right now that'd be great.

I'd like to make it more interesting, though.

My team? We're going to go full on NA for this, as much as I think it would be EVEN EASIER if I took Aveiro or Jeongwa, as they are hands down the best Europeans in the game.... but my roster will be: MyeRs / CheMiCaL / Juiicy

Now, let's make it more interesting. I want to play vT, the real main 3, the team you have been a rival top team of mine for a while, and at the same time prove NA is better than EU. This means, I do not want to play against my old teammate. (PS: Anyone saying "scared of shk" proves the point that my old team was superior to vT/cm8t).

The challenge is:

MyeRs / CheMiCaL / Juiicy versus Prozajiik / Rockitude / Picky

I want to beat the roster that has the best synergy, has been together for the longest, and is considered the best european team.

Let's get some details down....

Best of 3 - 1 map each server - tie map decided by whoever wins by the bigger point spread. If the point spread is tied, we will have to find a means of dealing with that (Although it's never happened)

When? Easter Monday, everyone is off school and work, the average person celebrates easter on the Sunday, and it's one of the few days in advance we can set due to schedules. Easter also seems like a good time for legends to return from their grave ;) -- We can agree upon a a timing that works for everyone.

What if we lose? I'll put up a 50$ bounty back. Probably just get a prepaid visa and give it to proza to distribute to his team. If the guidelines above are followed, that is.

Maps? I don't want no random ass maps. I don't want to play Cream to get a excrement win, or my team play something of that style to get a excrement win to. I want real, known, common maps, that we are both equal at in order to prove who's superior. Me/Proza can discuss this prior.

Other rules: NO SPECTATORS IN THE SERVER. If you want people to watch, you can turn your stream on. Not dealing with the likes of dooci and others. NO speccing. NO SUBSTITUTES.



So, Checkmate.....

Do you accept the challenge? Or are you going to back down.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Squeeze on March 31, 2015, 05:02:09 PM
You are going to loose Steven.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Sporti on March 31, 2015, 05:08:32 PM
GG
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on March 31, 2015, 05:35:15 PM
Sorry, my post is a bit misleading...

When I put NA vs EU, I mean, Canada vs EU. Because the best Dp2 players in history have come from Canada.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Squeeze on March 31, 2015, 06:31:17 PM
I will bring Koreans into this game. And I will team up with them.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on March 31, 2015, 06:43:53 PM
Koreans aren't good at FPS games
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Squeeze on March 31, 2015, 06:45:44 PM
Thats true, for example CS:GO, 10 world best teams, from 1st to 9th place are EU teams then it is on 10th place NA team.

#iloveyouSteven
#butEUisbetter
#Bjergsen<3
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Toxiic on March 31, 2015, 10:44:21 PM
When I put NA vs EU, I mean, Canada vs EU. Because the best Dp2 players in history have come from Canada.
Check n CheckMate. 


Teh b8 is gr8 m8 i r8 8/8.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Clipz on March 31, 2015, 11:29:54 PM
Thats true, for example CS:GO, 10 world best teams, from 1st to 9th place are EU teams then it is on 10th place NA team.

#iloveyouSteven
#butEUisbetter
#Bjergsen<3

If EU was so "good" why did bjerg choose to play for tsm? EU hasn't won anything in league in two years.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Squeeze on April 01, 2015, 04:51:24 AM
NA teams needed EU skills, so EU LoL players help NA, for example Bjerg. ^.^
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: ascraeus on April 01, 2015, 05:05:09 AM
Thats true, for example CS:GO, 10 world best teams, from 1st to 9th place are EU teams then it is on 10th place NA team.

#iloveyouSteven
#butEUisbetter
#Bjergsen<3


1st to 9th are eu teams but in katowice brazilian keyd stars came 5th-8th.

counter-strike never was that famous in na
though ex-iBP could easily stomp some tier 2 eu teams (dignitas, hellraisers, lgb, penta etc) and really challenge top eu teams

rip swag



also "eu is better in csgo" and suddenly "#bjergsen<3"
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Squeeze on April 01, 2015, 06:39:08 AM
Wannabe NA.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 01, 2015, 07:13:15 AM
NA teams needed EU skills, so EU LoL players help NA, for example Bjerg. ^.^

Literally the dumbest comment I've ever seen.

NA has surpassed EU, and gave better chance for success because NA infrastructure is better and the teams have more money.

---

Now let's keep this as a Canada is superior to everyone, where are you at checkmate?
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: rockitude on April 01, 2015, 07:22:58 AM
I'm not home on easter monday. We would have to find a different date.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: ascraeus on April 01, 2015, 07:48:56 AM
Wannabe NA.

wannabe na while im just stating facts, kden
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: knuddlee on April 01, 2015, 08:10:27 AM
omg, typical for this community. a few na players raging against a few eu players. BOOOOOOOOOOM, LETS MAKE A NA VS EU BATTLE OUT OF IT!

Let a 3v3 decide which county is better!
Lets look at LoL and CS:GO to decide who will win!
Lets go full stereotypical!

F*ck this, you are like little kiddies fighting about a snickers. (excluding prozos team, they atlest dont boast around like some other 13-year-minded here)

Hope myers #getsrekt for his #sh'theadbehavior -.-
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 01, 2015, 08:14:50 AM
Knuddle, are you stupid?

The reason for this thread, and the challenge, isn't "NA VS EU" , that's just to give it some hype. The CSGO / LoL is just derailed conversation. If you had half a brain you'd realize this isn't anything to do with NA vs EU, it just happens to be an NA team challenging the EU team that has a bounty. There's literally 0 raging. I don't see any raging at all.

It's because Checkmate put a 50$ bounty on whoever can beat them. So we're coming back to DP, to challenge them for that 50$.

It's not that hard to understand.

How do they not boast around? They said they'll pay a team to beat them. That's the roosteriest thing you can do. I've done it before a few years back, offered 100$ to any team that could beat us. Why? Because of arrogance. You want to help people improve - help them, but the 50$ bounty is to try to make people try hard to beat you, and shows your arrogance cause they don't expect to have to pay it.

We're simply challenging their arrogance.

I think putting a bounty on yourself for a free game is the most arrogant thing you can do. And does nothing to help the game other than further saying: "we think we're on a complete level above everyone else".  Nobody puts a bounty if they think people might beat them. Source: I've done it before.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: knuddlee on April 01, 2015, 08:24:40 AM
Knuddle, are you stupid?

Not stupid, dumb maybe

The reason for this thread, and the challenge, isn't "NA VS EU" , that's just to give it some hype. The CSGO / LoL is just derailed conversation. If you had half a brain you'd realize this isn't anything to do with NA vs EU, it just happens to be an NA team challenging the EU team that has a bounty. There's literally 0 raging. I don't see any raging at all.

Almost every reply in this topic is "my country is better, cause..."
OR simply "owned, lol"

It's because Checkmate put a 50$ bounty on whoever can beat them. So we're coming back to DP, to challenge them for that 50$.

Then just beat them? Lol, u just made an extra thread, even colored the important stuff... if its just for beating them... simply... beat them?! If u do just donate the bounty back to them, simple as that.

It's not that hard to understand.

There u've made a point.

How do they not boast around? They said they'll pay a team to beat them. That's the roosteriest thing you can do. I've done it before a few years back, offered 100$ to any team that could beat us. Why? Because of arrogance. You want to help people improve - help them, but the 50$ bounty is to try to make people try hard to beat you, and shows your arrogance cause they don't expect to have to pay it.

You dare to speak about arrogance? Seriously? Look at the last line of your own first post. And then look at any other post ever made from you.

We're simply challenging their arrogance.

Arrogance vs arrogance, k

I think putting a bounty on yourself for a free game is the most arrogant thing you can do. And does nothing to help the game other than further saying: "we think we're on a complete level above everyone else".  Nobody puts a bounty if they think people might beat them. Source: I've done it before.



Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: lukip on April 01, 2015, 08:40:17 AM
cant you just ban knuddlee? he cant even read normal posts. and the replys to myerz sentences didnt make sense at all.

to the topic, its actually a cool idea but i think youre making to much hype about it.
and to the problem with "winning on the same amount of points as the opponent", you could say the team who won faster gets the server advantage? well, it might be unfair because it depends on the map choice. just an idea^^
btw, whos gonna stream it, prozajik, myerz, shk?
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 01, 2015, 08:55:25 AM
Lukip, let's be realistic right now. DP is dead. It's hard to match, let alone pub. A little hype to a match is a good thing, this thread has more traffic than JMR's 'interview' post where he tried to get hype from. Why? Because in a game where people know everyone, and is dead, and a tournament with no prize - an interview is retarded, especially those questions. But, a challenge where both sides put money on the line is interesting, especially when they are the best players from their region for the last few years, at least.

If we quietly did the match and nobody saw, what fun would that be? That'd be like a standard match. Standard matches are fine and all, but playing in Gonass' 250$ tournament, or GGDPLeague was significantly more fun, because something was on the line, pride as well as money. Whereas, playing in QeHs cups, or JMR tournaments, were more just 'fun'. I like to push for the first one where something is actually on the line.

Not to mention, I would assume whoever streams would likely get about 10-20 viewers (maybe more) if we hype it up, plan a date and time, don't allow spectators.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Morphin on April 01, 2015, 08:56:53 AM

How do they not boast around? They said they'll pay a team to beat them. That's the roosteriest thing you can do. I've done it before a few years back, offered 100$ to any team that could beat us. Why? Because of arrogance. You want to help people improve - help them, but the 50$ bounty is to try to make people try hard to beat you, and shows your arrogance cause they don't expect to have to pay it.

We're simply challenging their arrogance.

I think putting a bounty on yourself for a free game is the most arrogant thing you can do. And does nothing to help the game other than further saying: "we think we're on a complete level above everyone else".  Nobody puts a bounty if they think people might beat them. Source: I've done it before.


First things first.
It seems like you didnt even read the post by prozajik about the bounty.
Here for you Myerz:

Since we won weak 2 tourney as well as the one before that, as I promised we are bringing a form of 'prize' into JMR's tourney.

We are placing a bounty on our heads, whoever can take either 2xBO1s or 1xBO3 1 away from us gets the bounty. These BO1s don't have to be in the same tourney, but they have to be in the same ranking 'season' (after JMR resets rankings, we reset your victories against us, but bounty stays the same)

For every consecutive tourney win, we will increase the bounty by 10$. 2

If you manage to succeed in one of the conditions above, we will require demos from all of you from both maps (either two BO1s maps or two maps from BO3) and we give ourselves the right to postpone bounty give away until the demos are reviewed by committee IF we suspect hacking. Based solely on the committee decision you get the money. 3

Victories towards bounty count ONLY in JMR's tourney every sunday.


Current bounty: 10$


So better start training guys and get serious about this tourney, because we definitely are :)


1 .. Why is it like this? Precaution against BO1 rounds, we can just mess up map pick etc, we allow ourselves to make a one small error.

2 .. We might set a limit for how high the bounty can go, we will see how it all works out first

3 .. It's simple, if you get banned thanks to the demo review you won't get the money. That being said, if committee states that it's clean you get the money no matter what we think.




PS: I came up with the rules for the bounty give away just now, didn't even talk to my mates about details, the rules might change but they are going to be definite in the day of the next tourney (next sunday 8.3.).

Secondly this has nothing to do with arrogance. This bounty is just to encourage other teams to stay active and try to improve.
I dont understand why you are trying to make us look arrogant.
You are the last one who should do that.



Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: JeongWa on April 01, 2015, 09:07:25 AM
Nothing interesting since matches between NA and EU teams have been won 99% of the time by the one playing on his own server. (excluding the unknown map). So it will not proove that much to my mind because not even One map will be played fairly. And playing a best of 3 is even more an unfair match for this scenario. Playing cm8t is hard because of their style, and also because they are the masters in the crouch-fights. But thats only possible with low ping. So it's totally different plus i think Playing a match to decide " who is the best " with 180/200 ping is retarded. But i guess this is not a choice.

Also as picky said, instead of doing that, you could just make ur team play for the next tournament in less than 2 weeks and start prooving things if this is what you want :) And it will be useful in this case because JMR will have one more team. #easierbracket with a pair number of teams
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 01, 2015, 09:16:22 AM
Picky - I guess you didn't speak to your team prior to posting,

Shockwave said: "anyone who beats you guys in bo3 or twice in the tournament wins the bounty" -- that's how he told us. And Prozajiik said he'll make a 50$ wager on the match, rather than the bounty.

Also, Temaru: We have no interest in playing a tournament on all EU server. We have nothing to prove, we've beaten everyone significant times. We're just coming due to seeing the bounty.

Lastly - Picky, a bounty is arrogant. No matter how you look at it. Nobody puts a bounty if they don't expect to always win. In one sense, you use it to try to make people try to beat you to give yourselves competition, in another sense you do it cause you know no current active team can beat you. I didn't see a bounty a year ago when you guys weren't on top. Why? Nobody gives money away for free. If you want to help people, how about actually teaching them? Most of the current game has played 2+ years, they wont just improve from your bounty, thats stupid. They'll improve if you go out of your way to teach them.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: prozajik on April 01, 2015, 09:37:41 AM
There is more than just one angle to look at it. There are teams and decent teams, obviously nobody is on our level otherwise we would have lost the tourney already. While that might be true, these teams are fully capable of beating us if they trained enough.

That being said, people are lazy. Why would anyone put any effort into practicing PB, when there is no motivation? The answer might seem fairly simple now right? Money. That's the reason we placed bounty on our heads. I would be happy to lose to a team which trained hard enough, learned our tactics and countered it, that would actually make the game more interesting. But as I said in the beginning...
People are lazy. The only team I have ever seen practice a lot and train tactics was former sPec. Everyone had equal grounds, yet sPec came the furthest in the smallest amount of time. What was the reason you ask? Motivation.

There is plenty of 'material' available to everyone.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Squeeze on April 01, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
omg, typical for this community. a few na players raging against a few eu players. BOOOOOOOOOOM, LETS MAKE A NA VS EU BATTLE OUT OF IT!

Let a 3v3 decide which county is better!
Lets look at LoL and CS:GO to decide who will win!
Lets go full stereotypical!

F*ck this, you are like little kiddies fighting about a snickers. (excluding prozos team, they atlest dont boast around like some other 13-year-minded here)

Hope myers #getsrekt for his #sh'theadbehavior -.-

We were just trashtalking and complaining. Thats normal thing. I love Myers and he loves me. No matter what.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 01, 2015, 12:42:21 PM
Proza - You realize that 50$ isn't an insentive to train, right? Gonass' 250$ tournament didn't make people train. Most teams that have played, have played years. It's not "strategy" that loses games. It's individual skill.

I can't understand how people can say strategy matters in a 1 hit kill game. Sure, there's smarter players and dumber players, but that's playstyle which isn't a teamwide strategy. But just to put it in perspective, me/shk/Clipz beat Power of 5 2-0 all EU server with Clipz going 0-13, and us not even reconing. Yet, in current state of DP they're a "strong" team. But, no offence to them, myself and Shockwave are signficantly better individual players and carried the game 2v3.

Teamwork in DP consists of: When you die you recon (good recon is a big factor but most people can do this if they use voice communication), set up when you have numbers (wow such intense stratgy that nobody can do!!), Revive caps (wow intense strategy, count a revive time, hide and wait for it), and you could argue defending 3v1 - but that is individual intelligence and you don't need communication with anyone to not be stupid.

You could take a team of.... MyeRs / Prozajik / Jeongwa (Just named 3 people who haven't teamed together) - and say: "hey you can't use any communication other than locs" - put them into the tournament on Sundays, and there is a high probability they would win. If they lost, it would be against a team that can rival their individual skill (ie shk/spain/aveiro).

SO TO SUM IT UP: It's 1 hit kill, there's minimal teamwork, it comes down to recon and individual skill. It HELPS if you know "oh hey my teammate is covering ice so if he dies i know they are ice" - but it really doesn't mean that much. The reason teams like Power of 5 were better as sPec, was because they got to match against all sorts of skill levels. Now? They match what... og or cm8t. Rape or get raped.

The reason I don't play is not because of anything in competition, it's because of what Jeongwa wrote above. The competition is cm8t, but in our matches with them, we each win our map on our server - lose the other server, whoever gets tie their server wins. That's not enjoyable. I "used" to be better, or maybe they were worse, and it used to be more decisive in my favor, but now it's server advantage wins match. I would enjoy to play them in a game where we all had even ping to truly see who's better.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Clipz on April 01, 2015, 02:06:37 PM
Woah I scored half our points!! But I agree and it was 0-10 :). Jmrs team I'll give them credit has gotten better. It even threw me off guard they didn't have someone camping like they did a lot before. The fact all I did was steam for flags and try to cap and didn't need to get a kill shows you the huge distance of skill level there still is. I'm not saying I'm good Anymore just adding to Myers discussion.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 01, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
^ Well the point is teamwork isn't what matters, it's just individual intelligence. If someone who sucks at the game just steams every round, anyone with half a brain would say: "Hey, he's going to steam, I'm going to just wait for his rush, get the free kill, and 3v2 every round" -- But they didn't. That's not teamwork, or anything you need to be vocal about. Strategy means nothing. It's all about individual skill, which part of that is having the game knowledge to know what to do.

Recon + Individual skill = all that is needed in DP2.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: prozajik on April 02, 2015, 10:45:59 AM
I could go on and on about what are keypoints for good teamwork in PB, but this post isn't about that so I am just going to give you an example since I don't agree with you (and you gave an example yourself).

Let's take the situation you mentioned above. Yes waiting for the 'rusher' is an obvious solution, BUT it only applies when you are thinking about the solution using individual skill, which you obviously are.
There are tons of other ways to approach that situation, if you think in terms of teamplay.
Since you and your team knows (lets have it as a fact), that one guy always rushes speedjump. Well as a team you could decide to use that situation to your advantage, you could decide to rush 2x low with 2nd guy going speed, since there are maximum 2 guys remaining guarding base/main you will have a natural advantage of 2v3.
Another way would be to just let him get flag and wait for him to rush out, the other 2 guys might come from main/base trying to help him get the grab and if you just stay hidden you can get one or two opening kills turning that situation in your favor, or if the other 2 guys won't come you can just simply wait for the flag kill the flag and then go for 2v3 in your base.

Now, you might be able to deal with that if you were really good and clutch the situation, but that's totally different 'issue'.

I would like to point out that IMO teamwork and individual skill are 2 totally different things and should be regarded as such. Yes, if you are good and your opponents are bad no shiet you can win 1v3. That applies for all games tho, look at faker/bjergsen (yeye i just put them in the same sentence, pls burn me). Now take a look at PB, yea we might not always need to use tactics to be able to win, but that only proves what I have written above, but doesn't in any way prove that there is no tactic in PB.
We have to utilize our synergy/game knowledge to be able to beat some of the stronger teams. For example if someone is getting overwhelmed by opposing team players all rushing at him, someone else needs to come and help him with that situation. Or if we are 2v2 and one opponent is grabbing flag we can decide to push for the kill on the other one or just go for flags and try 2v2 scenario, but we need to decide that as a team thus making teamwork a 'thing'.

Well that was longer than I initially planned, well have fun reading that. Also on a more relevant note, I guess for everyone, the match will take place at some other date since spain can't be home on the specified Monday.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 02, 2015, 12:03:35 PM
Prozajiik, if you were to listen to a competitive League of Legends or CS:GO team in a tournament, the communication is insane. Those games rely on communication more than anything. Timing buffs in league is a big thing too.

I've played this game for a long time at a competitive level, and never once have timed a revive. I go: "Uhh, I'm reviving in 10 so be careful he'll revive soon too" -- but nobody consistently calls out revives of themselves and enemy team for the majority of their death. There's slight teamwork, obviously, it's not a pug. But at the end of the day, DP relies more on individual skill.

Would it be different if there were more good teams? Sure. But right now, cm8t can beat JMR's tournaments without voice recon. Why? They are individually 10x better than the rest of the players who participate weekly. DP is 1 hit kill, with fairly simple maps (2-3 paths typically) - and has something most games do not which is recon. Recon eliminates a lot of strategy needed.

If you were to remove recon from DP (ie can only chasecam your team) then DP would rely way more heavily on strategic play. But DP relies on individual skill and recon. If there's 2 even skilled teams, the team with better recon will win. Why has NA historically been better than EU? NA has always used voice recon, and for the longest time EU only used locs. It was a huge advantage that is even bigger than the ping advantage.

Anyways, the reason my team used to be on top for so long, even when going inactive, was due to good recon and individual skill. Cm8t caught up in both those categories, so most matches come down to: who gets tie on their server. Wish there was a fair way to do that, where there's no ping advantage.That would make DP fun, cause we'd have a team that's a real competition. Oh wells.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Squeeze on April 02, 2015, 02:10:58 PM
I came here to support teamwork, cuz imo its better... but now i rly want to see DP2 on the similar system like CS:GO is. When u will get killed, u cant chasecam enemy and you can just said where he was when he killed you, or call out where you see enemy. That would be more interesting to see something like this, cuz everybody can see whats your true skill level. I was thinking about that long time, and i kinda want to play matches where chasecam of enemies is turned off. So your plays will depend on your predictions, how you think in game, what you are expecting from enemy [individual skill], and how you can outplay enemy even in 4v4 in 1vs3 situations, cuz u cant get recon and they too. That would be really awesome to see something like this. I want feature, when u rent server, u can choose option to set chasecam of enemies to true/false. [chasecam of teammates always turned on]
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Rockyar_96 on April 03, 2015, 08:38:51 AM
Can you just play instead of throwing arguments at each other. Make it best of 5 and you'll get me watch it all night long :3 Srsly this would be a real event...
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 03, 2015, 10:00:54 AM
Can you just play instead of throwing arguments at each other. Make it best of 5 and you'll get me watch it all night long :3 Srsly this would be a real event...

Best of 5 sounds cool.... we should do a 4v4 NA vs EU best of 5. Not "Cm8t vs Myers team" -- That's be more hype. We pick the EU server used, you pick NA server used (so we can atleast get the best ping when on opposition server).

Maps agreed upon beforehand. No spectators.

Myers team captain of NA, and chooses who he thinks the strongest roster is

Prozajiik team captain of EU, and chooses who he thinks the strongest roster is (You can pick any combination of players who are currently living in Europe)

Battle it out in best of 5. 1st 2 maps EU serv, 2nd 2 maps NA server, tie whoever wins by more points on their 2 maps combined.

Just a little fun-hype event for DP. Kind of like All star game in League of Legends. Really there is no gain from winning (ie no prize) - but bragging rights and still one of the most hyped events. There's not much hype things anything. Standard matches? Nobody has records. Tournaments? They are all 1 map games all EU server. This could be a better idea than challenger Checkmate.

Maybe we can still put a 50$ bet on the game, too. Increase the hype. Actually, if it's 4v4, maybe 40$ so each player gets 10.

You get 2 maps your server, so it makes it more reliable to fight for your server (especially with predetermined maps) - so it's less of a fluke of who gets tie map theirs. (Ie team plays pbcup for their map to make sure if they lose it'll only be 10 or less pt diff is not possible).
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: luckmore on April 03, 2015, 12:19:48 PM
prozajik picky rockitude vs myers chemical juicey

ps:  no shk
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MrPeach on April 03, 2015, 02:39:02 PM
5vs5!
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 03, 2015, 04:11:09 PM
@MrPeach - 5v5 is fun, but it's just not played at all and most maps don't really play well for 5s. It's just a clusterintercourse.

@Luckmore - That would be the cm8t vs Myers team match - not sure if it would be the NA vs EU, not sure who the top of each region are.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: DooCi on April 04, 2015, 12:26:21 PM
I came here to support teamwork, cuz imo its better... but now i rly want to see DP2 on the similar system like CS:GO is. When u will get killed, u cant chasecam enemy and you can just said where he was when he killed you, or call out where you see enemy. That would be more interesting to see something like this, cuz everybody can see whats your true skill level. I was thinking about that long time, and i kinda want to play matches where chasecam of enemies is turned off. So your plays will depend on your predictions, how you think in game, what you are expecting from enemy [individual skill], and how you can outplay enemy even in 4v4 in 1vs3 situations, cuz u cant get recon and they too. That would be really awesome to see something like this. I want feature, when u rent server, u can choose option to set chasecam of enemies to true/false. [chasecam of teammates always turned on]
i agree.there is a command for this that admins  shoud put on servers to make the game more strategic
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: DooCi on April 04, 2015, 12:38:01 PM
the command is "cvar_set chasecamonly". Default is 0, so 1 should only let u chase ur own team. remember to placethis only in matchmode. some matches should be played with this to see how it goes
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Rick on April 04, 2015, 05:22:44 PM
eh, the reason it works in cs:go is that one team is forced to push the other. CTF, where no one HAS to push, might not work very well.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Squeeze on April 04, 2015, 05:45:35 PM
It can actually show, how skilled you are.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Rick on April 04, 2015, 09:04:37 PM
It can actually show, how skilled you are.
Not doubting that. I'm doubting that the positive effects would outweigh the negative effects, especially in such a fast paced game.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Clipz on April 05, 2015, 01:22:54 AM
I'd love for that in DP. No recon, and chasecam. Would almost be like real paintball.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 05, 2015, 08:25:54 AM
It would make more teamwork. Right now, people don't care if they die often times, cause they can recon. 2v3 with recon is as good as a 3v3. (assuming its good recon)

It'd make people probably play more "camping" because they are afraid of getting intercoursed by revive caps, but it would allow for way more outplay potential. You could take risks more.

It would involve way more thinking, and learning how the opposition plays.

Unfortunately, DP is pretty dead and its pointless right now.

That being said, Recon was also one of my favourite things about DP because it's what made people forced to go on voice communication, and talk, which caused a lot of enjoyable times in DP. But, I think recon removes a lot of potential strategy and skill.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: shockk on April 05, 2015, 09:30:49 PM
somewhat reading the thread, I agree Canada has best individual skill ftw
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 05, 2015, 09:53:46 PM
somewhat reading the thread, I agree Canada has best individual skill ftw

Undoubtedly the best.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Toxiic on April 05, 2015, 10:26:08 PM
I'd love for that in DP. No recon, and chasecam. Would almost be like real paintball.
If this happend, this game would become 100x better. Imagine the suspense that you have: no clue where the enemy is. What and where the exact/approx. of the enemy is. If someone is camping. If someone is etc......... The game would have soo much suspense it'd be fun as hell. That's how I use to play dp, and I still do. Thats why I dont understand recon fully. Only recon I get is flg flg1 flg2 window fd hbd bd. I just play the game; focus on the game and not recon. I literately ignore all the voice recon people give me when Im playing, hence the speakers muted in ts3. It adds 100x more fun to the game. Also another reason why I get capped on so much; but I also do comebacks that show my personal skills and my teamwork synergies. Teamworkop
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Rockyar_96 on April 06, 2015, 07:01:41 AM
It most definetly would give the game a more competitive charm.
Btw, I hope I'm not the only one with this, but I'd want to spectate :3/stream
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: shockwave on April 06, 2015, 03:34:06 PM
soooo, when is this going to happen?
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 06, 2015, 04:18:05 PM
soooo, when is this going to happen?

The europeans seem scared of the raw talent that stems from the Canadian region.

As the world is well aware that Canada is the strongest country in Digital Paint: Paintball 2.0

If DP2 was in the Olympics, Canada would have won gold every year.

We're superior.

We are born to play Dp2. It's in our blood.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Morphin on April 06, 2015, 04:33:06 PM
The only thing in which canadian dp2 players are superior is talking big.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: shockwave on April 06, 2015, 04:36:06 PM
sooooo...when is this going to happen...
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 06, 2015, 06:43:12 PM
^ notice how some euro responds saying we can only talk big, yet all he did was talk and not give a date?

Yawn.

Canada #1.

We accept challenges from any other country of players. Please. Europe is all useless so we classify "europe" as a country. Feel free to join forces.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Toxiic on April 06, 2015, 08:30:14 PM
The only thing in which canadian dp2 players are superior is talking big.
We don't just talk big, we win big as well. Unlike Euro, talk small; win nothing. We have records on records. We setting history

Canadians are the GOAT's of DP.

Still waiting to see anysort of reply from euro players to accept the challenge. If you don't reply obviously people will think your scared and are weak. Atleast show some pride.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: CheMiCal on April 07, 2015, 02:14:00 AM
intercoursein eh, it's hard to get a day off eh. intercourse.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Champ on April 07, 2015, 08:22:01 AM
Good luck, MyeRs.

You simply can not beat CheckMate. Period.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Clipz on April 07, 2015, 08:31:09 AM
Good luck, MyeRs.

You simply can not beat CheckMate. Period.

April fools was last week. I think you got your dates mixed up.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 07, 2015, 10:19:18 AM
Good luck, MyeRs.

You simply can not beat CheckMate. Period.

Only have beaten them triple digit amount of times, but you right must be impossible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pls. Noname, don't speak in the presence of a Canadian.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 07, 2015, 01:25:29 PM
The awkward moment when a random thread challenging a team has more traffic than the results of an entire series of a tournament, or a stupid interview with "the best of their tournament"

Guess we know what hypes people up more........
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: CheMiCal on April 07, 2015, 03:16:06 PM
If we had the luxury to have a couple days off in a row to shake off the rust, It'd be a 2 - 0 win for us. History tends to repeat itself :( Sorry.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: DooCi on April 07, 2015, 05:31:36 PM
April fools was last week. I think you got your dates mixed up.
OHH YOU JUST GOT OWNED GERMY GERMANS.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Champ on April 08, 2015, 05:49:58 AM
MyeRs, you trashtalker, post here demos from that matches.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Champ on April 08, 2015, 05:50:55 AM
OHH YOU JUST GOT OWNED GERMY GERMANS.

That awkward moment when you realize that I'm not from Germany.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: lukip on April 08, 2015, 08:37:39 AM
EU>NA

(http://i.imgur.com/UOSolDl.png)

Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Squeeze on April 08, 2015, 09:50:09 AM
MyeRs, you trashtalker, post here demos from that matches.

I can post XY demos how i beat you, and i don't even have to be Canadian.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: Toxiic on April 08, 2015, 10:42:19 AM
EU>NA

(http://i.imgur.com/UOSolDl.png)

Canada> EU

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/311/924/234.jpg)
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: knuddlee on April 08, 2015, 11:31:39 AM
EU >> REST >> MyeRs

Don't let history repeat itself.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: lukip on April 08, 2015, 12:19:59 PM
EU >> REST >> MyeRs

Don't let history repeat itself.
would it be possible for clan >og</>ng< to move into another country? away from europe? so EU doesnt look that bad..

toxiic you made my day ;D
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 08, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
EU >> REST >> MyeRs

Don't let history repeat itself.

History has shown that to be incorrect. Awkward.

Lukip has a point, if those teams left EU it would make them seem less terrible. They would be the skill of America (HAIL DOOCI).

Canada #1 - willing to back up that claim.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 08, 2015, 12:53:44 PM
Something funny I noticed - JMR's threads all had about 500-700 views, except his map voting thread had a lot.

I then made a comment about how this thread has more traffic then his therefore is hyping the game more, only a couple days ago when those threads were up for weeks or months.

Somehow his threads doubled from 500-700 to 1000-1400 in like a day or 2. Funny. Someone really got hurt at that comment and made sure to bot-view or spam view for days.

Don't worry guys, in the last 24hrs 700 people randomly decided to go look at prozajik's DP interview about a tournament they all really care about cause its so high profile. LOOL
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: lukip on April 08, 2015, 01:06:19 PM
Lukip has a point, if those teams left EU it would make them seem less terrible. They would be the skill of America (HAIL DOOCI).
you didnt get my point.
EU>NA
cm8t>team myerz
lukip>univers

k? thx.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: knuddlee on April 08, 2015, 01:24:26 PM
I'm not even in og/ng, but thanks for proving my point: You just rage cause of stereotypes, GJ!

plus: atleast over 50% of EU are german/swiss/austria, thats just common sense, for ur information btw.

2lazy to edit my previous post so: eu >> NA >> MygEEg >> sukip
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 08, 2015, 01:40:54 PM
I'm not even in og/ng, but thanks for proving my point: You just rage cause of stereotypes, GJ!

plus: atleast over 50% of EU are german/swiss/austria, thats just common sense, for ur information btw.

2lazy to edit my previous post so: eu >> NA >> MygEEg >> sukip

I mentioned previously that Europe is so bad at this game that there's no reason to put countries. Even combined they can't keep up with Canada.

If we had a battle of Countries in DP2, it would be a joke. Canada would 2-0 everyone. Or 3-0 if we made a bo5

I don't understand why nonames like Knuddlee even talk here, though. In the last almost 5 years, vT and o.O have been the only relevant teams. With some other teams like c2o and sPec being mediocre for certain periods. I'm just waiting for them to try to come up with a date.

This thread concerns good players.

Lukip is allowed to post, best sub world.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: knuddlee on April 08, 2015, 01:58:16 PM
"I cant see how nonames like "...." are even allowed to post here"
+
"I'm not being arrogant", no, sure you're not.


Just accept that your a little kid crying about loosing his precious No1 spot in a GAME.

Cry all you wont, even if you win ur still a kid.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: CheMiCal on April 08, 2015, 02:25:05 PM
i'd rag doll any European in a 1v1 , i know i'm better than you all individually. Now you think you can beat the 3 best players(shk too) in the game atm? ha
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: JeongWa on April 08, 2015, 02:54:08 PM
i'd rag doll any European in a 1v1 , i know i'm better than you all individually. Now you think you can beat the 3 best players in the game atm? ha

No doubt.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: rockitude on April 08, 2015, 03:25:53 PM
The team of Boyka, Bundy and Jeongwa are a challenge. Myers is nothing without Shockwave and there are enough European clans who would beat him. Myers if you want to match us, PM me. A match versus you is nothing special and doesn't deserve this hype.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MrPeach on April 08, 2015, 03:31:33 PM
For sure Canadians are #1 in trash talking ;)

JMR's tournaments have brought something fresh to the game and little bit more challenge. For example I enjoyed being forced to choose other maps than are usually played. Although if teams would practise more instead of showing up only on Sunday evening (including my team but I think its changing now) it would be more interesting.
Maybe JMR's threads have less traffic but people there are more concerned about PLAYING the game instead of READING spam and excrement.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 08, 2015, 07:35:56 PM
The team of Boyka, Bundy and Jeongwa are a challenge. Myers is nothing without Shockwave and there are enough European clans who would beat him. Myers if you want to match us, PM me. A match versus you is nothing special and doesn't deserve this hype.

Awkward how I've stomped you more times than you've won single maps against me. Also awkward how I've stomped every euro team. With or without shockwave.

Also funny how I've beaten the cm8t roster, when I rarely play, without Shockwave. I've also beaten the cm8t roster with Shockwave playing in cm8t (a sub was used as a 3rd, however).

I'm not a challenge, yet it seems as though teams don't fluke games much from Cm8t given their perfect performance in tournaments. Map1: http://oi62.tinypic.com/2qvzjn7.jpg Map2: http://oi60.tinypic.com/2ng4jmp.jpg  ---> Hey a 2-0 win, with Shockwave not playing, against CM8T's main lineup, and MyeRs playing. CRAZY.  (Also funny how that game was after SHK joined cm8t, and he seems to think theyre record is undefeated?

Rockitude, saying I'm nothing without Shockwave is the equivalent of saying you're nothing without Prozajiik. Shockwave would even admit he's significantly better with me. Not to mention, I can post hundreds more screenshots from the last few years. Before the Gonass Tournament we were beating you guys daily. Congrats, you have the best ping in the game and still aren't classified the best. You're not a star, you're not on top, you're a good jumper with low ping who is easily abused against teams who aren't complete excrement.

PS: @ MrPeach: If there are more concerned about playing the game than the trash talk and whatnot, why does this thread get more views and posts? People clearly are more intrigued by this. They rather watch a hyped up match, and try to see a team none of you can handle (cm8t) potentially get beat.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: shockwave on April 08, 2015, 08:05:40 PM
The team of Boyka, Bundy and Jeongwa are a challenge. Myers is nothing without Shockwave and there are enough European clans who would beat him.

MyeRs/Juiicy/CheMical would definitely be a challenge for an EU team not only because they get to use an NA server for a map but they are strong players. That lineup would easily be considered top 3 in the game right now and within the past few years.  

I don't really know who will win, but i'd put my money on my team, cM8t.

You're talking really big MyeRs, let's see if you can back that up in the match.


Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: shockwave on April 08, 2015, 08:17:21 PM
I've also beaten the cm8t roster with Shockwave playing in cm8t (a sub was used as a 3rd, however).

lol.
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 08, 2015, 08:27:25 PM
Considering we played on NA servers with a ringer, it was still a close match.

It was 1 map each, me/dystro/jeo vs you/proza/jano, we 2-0'd ren/pfore. Pfore was close, ren we won by like 25 on EU serv. Not bragging, cause ringers were used, just stating if I'm nothing without you how could I have won?
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 08, 2015, 08:49:53 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------

Let's make this real, stop the trash talk, stop the NA vs EU, let's make this a vintage match, the match that has been the most competitive the last 4-5 years.

MyeRs Shockwave CheMiCaL , our main 3 we've teamed with for years on end, and have been the best with

versus

Prozajiik Rockitude Picky , your main 3 that you've teamed with for years on end, and have been the best with

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Best of 5, agreed upon maps between captains beforehand. 3 versus 3, no spectators.

Date? We propose 19th of April 2015. Do you accept?

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Locking the thread because I actually want this to happen. NA is weak in talent, just as EU is, and I don't want to use a 3rd that I don't play with to try to prove a point.

I rather make this a match that actually has some history to it. The best NA vs the best EU.

It's not an NA vs EU battle, it's just 2 of the strongest teams for a long time now, having 1 last play off.

What the o.O versus cM8t

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PM me on Forums/STeam/IRC if interested. Once date is agreed upon I'll make new thread without spam, and let's get this hyped. Good time to get some viewers on stream.

PS: My team all agreed to play (Yes, your teammate Shockwave agreed to play against you. And I don't think he would have agreed to play in a game he thinks he would lose....)
Title: Re: Checkmate, we challenge you
Post by: MyeRs on April 09, 2015, 01:10:04 PM
l0l now this is at 10,000 views, someone is having fun! 9000 views in a DAY. REALISTIC.