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Development => Bugs, Feature Requests, and Feedback => Topic started by: ElimNator on April 05, 2014, 10:40:03 AM

Title: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 05, 2014, 10:40:03 AM
You should add a traitor game mode like in garry's mod. I think we all know what I am talking about but Ill still explain it. Depending on how many people their are like 1 in 8 are traitors. Nobody knows who the traitors are. The traitors have to try to kill the innocents and they have to kill the traitors. It leads to some fun game-play!
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 05, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
You should add a traitor game mode like in garry's mod. I think we all know what I am talking about but Ill still explain it. Depending on how many people their are like 1 in 8 are traitors. Nobody knows who the traitors are. The traitors have to try to kill the innocents and they have to kill the traitors. It leads to some fun game-play!
It's called DM, we have this already, except there is no "traitors win" message.

In short: No.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 05, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
Don't be a party pooper. Have you ever played this game before? DM is not even close to it...
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 05, 2014, 10:57:55 AM
Have you ever played this game before?
Have you ever played THIS game before?
It won't work here, this is DP, not garry's mod.
Besides, jitspoe haven't implemented any new game mode for many years now, if he had to implement any, he wouldn't waste his time on this.
So please just be quiet since you can't even fairly compare DP to garry's mod.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 05, 2014, 11:04:21 AM
LOL, I can. I know DP is team based and not really meant for this kind of game mode.
But guess what? Anything is possible with coding!
You could have 2 teams, but they all take on the skin of 1 team so you cant tell who is what.
Team kill could be on, and no re-spawn. BAM! an epic new game mode!
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 05, 2014, 12:21:21 PM
But guess what? Anything is possible with coding!
Go, code it then. I could do a lot of stuff, but I dont think I would be able to add new gamemode to DP. But since you are such pro, you know everything, go do it yourself. Otherwise just be quiet, you are newb with dumb ideas. Please instead listen to people who were around for some time, you have so much to learn.
In case you want to answer me: Go on, I like trolling newbs, but at least I tried to inform you that your ideas are stupid. But I know newbs can't do anything other than die, quit this game and have dumb ideas.

EDIT: Excuse me, you are not newb, you are noob. Being here since 2009, 30 posts and still can't really play...
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 05, 2014, 01:31:25 PM
LOL you make me laugh, I don't come on the forums much but I do play the game a fair bit. Also:

"No ideas are dumb, only the people who say they are."
 - jitspoe
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: LaZeRs on April 05, 2014, 01:53:51 PM
Go, code it then. I could do a lot of stuff, but I dont think I would be able to add new gamemode to DP. But since you are such pro, you know everything, go do it yourself. Otherwise just be quiet, you are newb with dumb ideas.
In case you want to answer me: Go on, I like trolling newbs, but at least I tried to inform you that your ideas are stupid. But I know newbs can't do anything other than die, quit this game and have dumb ideas.

EDIT: Excuse me, you are not newb, you are noob. Being here since 2009, 30 posts and still can't really play...
And the community wonders why more people don't play this game...
Where is the love? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc&feature=kp)
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 05, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
"No ideas are dumb, only the people who say they are."
 - jitspoe
I heard another version:
"ElimNator is dumb."
 - jitspoe

And the community wonders why more people don't play this game...
Where is the love? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc&feature=kp)
Right, we should instead implement dumb ideas. I tried to just say "no", but this noob is very persistent.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 05, 2014, 02:12:03 PM
not_payl_obviously, your probably a 8 year old kid screaming at your screen.
I'm not going to come down to your immature level.
Also just because you don't like something it doesn't mean everyone won't like it.

I had an idea while playing DB last night, and I thought I would post it.
I always did and still do doubt it will be actually added
because nothing of consequence has been added for years.

But dude, don't hate.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: omni on April 05, 2014, 03:11:26 PM
Payl is just a troll, ignore him. As for the idea I don't like it, my main reason is that I think it is pointless, you can already play this in Garry's mod, I cant see what advantage would arise from re-making it in this engine. Secondly its not really a priority compared to something like Bot AI, or an official map list both of which take time, like you said anything is possible through code, the constraint is time, effort and knowledge all of which are finite. Still nice to see someone posting ideas on here, they shouldn't be shot down, because you haven't played this game longer than someone. People were talking about a horde mode not so long ago, and we have seen nothing of that, so just know that it does not matter how popular an idea is in my opinion.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 05, 2014, 03:28:07 PM
I agree with you mostly, does DP have any sort of easy way to make add-ons/additions to the code?
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: xrichardx on April 05, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
No. You can download the source and modify it, but you are not allowed to play online with a modified executable.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 05, 2014, 03:58:15 PM
not_payl_obviously, your probably a 8 year old kid screaming at your screen.
I'm not going to come down to your immature level.
Second line contradicts first one.

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Also just because you don't like something it doesn't mean everyone won't like it.
Vice versa. If you like something doesn't mean everyone does.

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But dude, don't hate.
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Payl is just a troll
trolling is not hate.

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I cant see what advantage would arise from re-making it in this engine
This is not how programming works, omni.
Actually, nvm, I misunderstood omni. But to avoid confusion, refer to game as "game", not "engine" (because there are various engines in game, but not "engine").

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Still nice to see someone posting ideas on here, they shouldn't be shot down, because you haven't played this game longer than someone.
This idea is just stupid, this isn't garry's mod, again. That's why it should be shot down.

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People were talking about a horde mode not so long ago, and we have seen nothing of that, so just know that it does not matter how popular an idea is in my opinion.
I think jitspoe thinks of this after making Bot AI. But we will see if even Bot AI gets good update.

I agree with you mostly, does DP have any sort of easy way to make add-ons/additions to the code?
Obviously, another person who knows everything about programming, except programming.
I won't even waste my time saying how much you need to know to modify server assembly to add new gamemode. More than me, and I'm programming for 7+ years.

No. You can download the source and modify it, but you are not allowed to play online with a modified executable.
Xrichardx, I would assume at least you knew, that to implement new gamemode you have to modify server source, which is NOT included.
Also, I think you can run modified executable, why is point of source if you can't. But never wondered, always modified it on-fly.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 05, 2014, 04:40:24 PM
Whatever, I found a way make this work for me and my friends.
They have to copy my modified client over but it should work.

Thanks for all the "helpful" comments...
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: LaZeRs on April 05, 2014, 10:41:25 PM
I heard another version:
"ElimNator is dumb."
 - jitspoe
Right, we should instead implement dumb ideas. I tried to just say "no", but this noob is very persistent.
Right, because jitspoe actually said that.
He may be annoying to you, but you should be able to just say you disagree to his idea and tell why in a non-flaming, non-name calling way. :)
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: jitspoe on April 05, 2014, 11:01:26 PM
I don't think it would work very well in this game because of the 1 hit kills.  The CS/Garry's mod version requires a little more planning and tactics since it takes time to kill people, and grouping up makes it easier to take somebody down if he turns on you.  In paintball, you could just spray into a group of people and take them out before they had a chance to react.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 06, 2014, 10:15:46 AM
True, but if you made most people start with pistols, and a few rare low-end guns. Also with 3-5 bullets. then it would be harder. Of course all this is map end. Maybe it could be like siege mode. Where it is per map.

This is how I am doing it with my friends:

All textures are changed to blue and team kill is on.
Like mentioned above players start with very little stuff.
I am making a custom map with a special building, in there I have those special walls that only certain teams can get trough. That way you can conduct the tests to see who is on your team.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: BASEBALLDUDE on April 06, 2014, 10:41:49 AM
True, but if you made most people start with pistols, and a few rare low-end guns. Also with 3-5 bullets. then it would be harder. Of course all this is map end. Maybe it could be like siege mode. Where it is per map.

This is how I am doing it with my friends:

All textures are changed to blue and team kill is on.
Like mentioned above players start with very little stuff.
I am making a custom map with a special building, in there I have those special walls that only certain teams can get trough. That way you can conduct the tests to see who is on your team.
I don't know how well this will work out but you never know.

If one wants to create a new game mode, it would require mapping a specific way. Jitspoe doesn't have time to make another game mode, so if one desires to do so, it must be through mapping. For example, Mission made a map where you sacrifice yourself for your team by jumping into a hole, grabbing and capping in an instant, and immediately getting eliminated and respawned. So this idea could work if it's possible to map what you have in mind.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 06, 2014, 10:44:23 AM
All textures are changed to blue and team kill is on.
Use it, get banned. At least one noob less... Then go buy garry's mod if you want to play that gamemode.
It's DP, not garry's mod, srsly how many times can you say that. But noobs just won't listen, instead they complain we don't help and they make modifications to get banned.

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For example, Mission made a map where you sacrifice yourself for your team by jumping into a hole, grabbing and capping in an instant, and immediately getting eliminated and respawned. So this idea could work if it's possible to map what you have in mind.
That's not how you are supposed to do that, this map must be bad (no offense baseballdude, but your map sucks because you can't just make good normal map, instead you always have to screw something to make it weird and unplayable).

Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: BASEBALLDUDE on April 06, 2014, 10:53:40 AM
your map sucks because you can't just make good normal map, instead you always have to screw something to make it weird and unplayable
What did I screw to make it weird/unplayable? Please be more specific than "something."
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 06, 2014, 11:07:53 AM
What did I screw to make it weird/unplayable? Please be more specific than "something."
This depends on maps.

There are maps that were just badly designed from start (new york) but you kept making new betas.
Map you mentioned: This makes it impossible for one good person in team win against many newbs, why do you have to die to cap, this is dumb...
Also you have some weird propositions to "fix" spawnkilling like death triggers etc, which won't work.
You are not supposed to change gamemode using triggers, those are designed to help make simple mechanisms, not anti-spawnkill etc. Also, they mostly suck, since doors that close are typical spots for liners, same goes for elevators and things like that.
I haven't checked your maps for a bit of time, since I hated your older maps, and you seem to always do something to fail. Sometimes it's movable elements I mentioned, sometimes it different stupid idea like dying to cap. This really depends on map.
Maybe there is good map you made I don't know about, but don't expect me to keep track of all betas of new york and look at your other maps... I mostly see maps played on pubs anyway (especially PGP-only, since this is only good server type ATM).
Also, let's don't derail this topic. I told you how I feel about your maps. If you need to know more, you can PM me.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 06, 2014, 11:16:49 AM
 ::) I won't be banned for changing textures will I? Anyway I don't plan on joining any real servers with these textures. Just my own local one.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 06, 2014, 12:46:46 PM
::) I won't be banned for changing textures will I?
This is totally bannable since you change model textures. Many people before were banned for that.

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Anyway I don't plan on joining any real servers with these textures. Just my own local one.
Your local server can be set to public mode, but it has to be dedicated then. So if you make dedicated and public (cvar-wise) server, you can get banned for that too.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: LaZeRs on April 06, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
"Don't listen to LaZeRs" -not_payl_obviously

Oh well. :(
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 06, 2014, 01:48:39 PM
I think if jitspoe knows you're not using the textures as an unfair advantage in any sort of way that you will not be banned.
Since jitspoe banned baby-blue textures, those are bannable as well, since it gives you advantage, because you will clearly see enemies of wrong color in their base.
This modification falls under "modified content" ban, and jitspoe really does not care mostly, because of warning message you get, that you will get banned if proceed. I saw no-questions-asked bans for that.
Anyway, LaZeRs knows nothing about anticheat, so I wouldn't listen to his advices...
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 06, 2014, 01:50:40 PM
Like I said, I will not use it on-line. Just for local games.

None of us even log-in.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: FusSioN on April 07, 2014, 04:11:58 AM
Why would a traitor be in the team?

"Red team pays Mr. Traitor to kill Mr. Blue General"


There's no fun killing a traitor while being killed by a traitor.... He should've been in the red team.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: ElimNator on April 07, 2014, 02:02:11 PM
No, this way a whole team would be traitors and, another team innocents.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: FusSioN on April 08, 2014, 05:14:07 AM
No, this way a whole team would be traitors and, another team innocents.
Lmao. It's like saying:

"Hey Mr. Red let us pretend that you are the traitor and me, Mr. Blue will pretend to be an innocent man"
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: Clipz on April 08, 2014, 07:30:32 AM
Jitspoe has far more impart any things to do then make this game mod. Give it up, this mod would be horrible for dp2 also.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: Rick on April 08, 2014, 08:21:01 AM
Jitspoe has far more impart any things to do then make this game mod. Give it up, this mod would be horrible for dp2 also.
Don't post while drunk, yo.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: FusSioN on April 08, 2014, 08:55:02 AM
Don't post while drunk, yo.
I think it's better, man.

But I suggest the original ones.


P.S.
Make a poll to see how many people agrees with you and how many do not.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: jitspoe on April 09, 2014, 05:47:17 PM
Added to the feature vote.  Feel free to vote for (or against) it: http://dplogin.com/dplogin/featurevote/feature.php?id=10310
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: Clipz on April 09, 2014, 07:26:36 PM
Don't post while drunk, yo.
Wasn't drunk yo. But I honestly think finishing the HR4's, bots and making the game look more appealing is far more important.
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: Rick on April 09, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
Wasn't drunk yo. But I honestly think finishing the HR4's, bots and making the game look more appealing is far more important.
Oh wow, you posted that sober? America..
Title: Re: Traitor Game Mode
Post by: not_payl_obviously on April 10, 2014, 05:04:33 AM
Added to the feature vote.  Feel free to vote for (or against) it: http://dplogin.com/dplogin/featurevote/feature.php?id=10310
Since you add such stupid modes to vote, why not add votes like:
- Vote to ban Payl from the game
- Vote to lift all the bans ingame
- Vote to free skater
- Vote to explain who Payl is
- Vote to ban jitspoe from development and move it to someone who can allow others to help
?
Only then this list can be even less useful and more pointless. Everyone knows this list doesn't matter to you whatsoever.