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Digital Paint Community => Clans, Matches, and Tournaments => Topic started by: Lunatic on June 07, 2006, 12:54:36 AM
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I was talking to Joe, and we were talking about how every clan in DP has a winning record. Seriously, if you go around to all of the channels every clan has a somewhat respectable record.
I'm not saying I don't believe them. I just don't understand what is going on. ch1ll: 29-23, Insane: 72-18, Apboc: 88-35, DoP, 191-52, Conflict: 24-10, Crossbones: 53-15, rP: 20-15, TeamRedemption: 24-16, Team CC you can't see there record. It just says "Matches: 108" or whatever, so I am not sure. I assume it isn't great otherwise they would show what it is. However, someone from CC correct me if I am wrong. Just an assumption.
Now I realize some of those records aren't great such as ch1ll, rP, redemption and like I said assuming CC. But they are all winning records. How do all of these clans have a winning record, and many have a dominant winning record. I understand clans like DoP, Crossbones, aB and others were around with other clans that have since died. But I have only seen these clans records increase their win:loss ratio. So tell me, who are these clans losing all the time? Not to mention eR33t's dominance when they match. They have lost once in the past how many matches?
Am I missing something here? Are clans adding fake wins? Are clans not adding losses? Please, fill me in. I am just curious. I must be missing some key fact here.
I am not asking you to justify your winnings. I just want to know how every clan in DP has a winning record. With the exception of #team_wod. WOD? Wjp? Yeah, exactly.
That's my rant for the day.
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cry more?
DoP playes vs all Clans (noobs or pros... and we also play vs clans which r maybe only 1 week old and then they die....)
http://steingolem.st.funpic.de/dopforum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14
All dop wars.
I bet some ppl will say I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THEM or something like that... my problem? no
And i dont care about other Records... i posted all wars in dop-forum.
And jeez its only a game...
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lun,
there are a lot of clans which don´t add their loses because of whatever for example:we dont girl thingy this match cuz that aren´t your real members or u hack, leave in the middle of the match and add after it a win.
a good example: dop matched a few months ago GTU.both teams won a map.as dop wanted to do the tiemap GTU left the server and added a win.we never matched them again.
i can understand these new clans made by newbs,most of them don´t add a lose or loses cuz maybe the members will leave or the clan will die quikly but it´s ridiculous if an "oldschool clan " do that.They dont have to care it cuz like mosez said "it´s only a game".
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The record of a clan doesnt even matter to me... to me its important to know how good they are at the moment and a record cant really tell that.
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Funny thing, only DoP is defending their record.
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I'm sure our record is a little messed up, but nothing to the extreme, maybe like 1-2 losses off ;). But thats because of the match and etc. Several reasons.
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It's pretty obvious that its not clans solely adding fake wins or not addings losses, its just that clans disband and reform on a weekly basis. Baiscally that wipes their old records clean and they start over.
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Funny thing, only DoP is defending their record.
yes, when people like you attacking our records, some dops defending them, sure. Wheres the problem? you old spammer!
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As part of the global login system, along with name and clan tag protection, I'd also like to have a more organized way to keep track of clan records. Some of the results might be because of fake wins or not adding losses, but I think a lot of it is just the number of clans that have come and gone. Search for Skater on that DoP record list. He's listed in about 10 different clans, half of which don't even exist anymore, but the win records still do.
I think it would be interesting to have an "active record" which only shows the wins/losses against active clans. It would also be nice to have some kind of clan hopping deterrent.
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To be honest, I wasnt in half of those clans..
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LMFAO!
Mosez: Mosez I really don't know how you got the impression I was crying or attacking DoP. I am well aware it's only a game. Now you being the only person that went apeexcrement about defending your clan, maybe I will be more skeptical. All you had to say was "Here are all of DoP's matches <link>". Instead you go into some rant about nothing. But if that's how you deal with things, keep on that.
DT: I figured it was people not adding losses.
But right now there seems to be a steady clan community (with the exception of maybe one or two here and there) And I figured people not adding losses would make the most sense. But literally every dp clan has a winning record with a large margin between wins and losses. That many clans with that good of a wins:loss ratio can't just come from not adding a loss here and there. I'm pretty sure it's a DP conspiracy. ;)
To finish off, many of you have stated "OMGZ ITS ONLY A GAME intercourse CALM DOWN!" When clearly it is. What makes a game more fun is having legitimate matches. Which is why hacking is frowned upon. If your clan adds fake wins, doesn't add losses, uses other members etc. that defeats the whole purpose. How can you feel your record is legitimate, and that your clan has acheived that record. Now before many of you idiots come in and say "DOOD WE GETS LYKE NEW MEMBERZ EVRYDAI!" No excrement. I'm not retarded.
Well the ending of that made pretty much no sense, and I'm sure of bunch of you will just flame me because you get off at night by doing so via the internet. But go for it. It's quite humorous.
EDIT:
Sorry I just had to add this because after posting I saw this posted in the ch1ll private channel. Which further proves idiotic clans adding fake wins.
[03:35pm] <frozer> hey tigger want the tiemap
[03:35pm] <frozer> hey says if we dont match the tiemap we will lose
Yes he is German, and obviously one of you will make fun of his poor english.
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I would just like to say that in regards to crossbones records.. I have sshots for all of our matches except for maybe 10. I just thought I would defend xb.
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Hopefully the Global Login will help keep stuff like this more organized.
To be honest, I wasnt in half of those clans..
All of you he is right, it wasn't half, it was all. You are the worst Clan hopping little bunny fu fu!! In any game ever.
:o :o :o + :P
Sure you have a right to leave or join a clan as you like. But it makes you look like the Terrell Owens of Dp only your game is no where near that and your smack is worse. Yes I am picking on you. At least your sticking with Insane so now I will shut up. ;)
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youre an idiot loial. Honestly. Ive been in a total of like ten clans, my first week shoudl even count. be quiet idiot seriously. OMGZ YOURE A CLAN HOPPER. I've been in a total of like 3 name worthy clans. God.
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What made me an idiot? How does clan hopping and poor smack improve things? I am willing to listen? So what made you mad? Calling you out as a clan hopper? Or being correct? Either way you have now been in a clan for over 4 weeks now, congradulations and I stand corrected.
One last thing i noticed. You tend invoked some God's name in this case twice and then call someone an idiot in this case three times. Why do that? Wh not give god a chance to do his work and calm down we all will die someday. Untill then live with your title. DP's best Clan Hopper. There are worse things to be. :)
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loial, name the clans ive been in. GT, TnL, eXT, Insane, xA. GT was lame, TnL died, eXT died, xA went to insane.
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well this thread has shown me the importance of recording every match with visual proof. So screenies of every rP match from now on.
The current rP record is correct and valid. I think some people need to remember that a loss doesn't make you less of a man, but if it did, skater needs all the wins he can get.
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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -You know who.
We are human after all. I could hardly care what clan you were in and why you no longer are in it. There are worse things to be than a Clan Hopper. You could be a cheater, oh wait didn't you? Well you could be a back stabber, oh wait, darn it. Well at lest you dont call people hurtful names, oh wait. Dang it sk8ter I am trying here.....oh yeah! You were always helpful when or that time....uhmm. Hmm I will shut up :)
Well this thread has shown me oddjob is smart and the global login should help this.
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stop loial, youre hurting my feelings :(
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I would just like to say that in regards to crossbones records.. I have sshots for all of our matches except for maybe 10. I just thought I would defend xb.
Crossbones, along with aB and DoP, well and obviously eR33t were the clans I was not concerned about at all because I know they have been around for sometime and realize many matches could easily be against dead clans, wins or losses. =D
Oh well.
Another one is probably using members not in their clan either. That always helps... ::)
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CC just doesnt have their losses showing, it really doesnt matter in my opinion.
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We've used DirtyTaco. I don't see why you guys even get all that mad. He NEVER plays anymore besides with us. Hes basically in our clan but still with eR33t...not really a big deal.
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Then why don't you guys match eR33t 40 times a day. Then he can play. Or why doesn't he just join your clan.. ::)
Exactly why DP is retarded. Because people can do what they want and it makes everything meddling stupid.
Yes I am complaining over a game. OMGZ NO WAY..
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does he play under tha name DirtyTaco for you?
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Lun is correct in this and I am sure most old school clans in any game would agree with these two statements.
1. Stick with one clan.
2. If that clan does not last perhaps you should not have joined it.
Also sadly DP clans are hardly organzied. Something we all have worked on lately, thank you pbcup leaders. Kinda of stupid and pointless to borrow from a different clan. If your own clan cant play the match perhaps you should not accept or challenge a match untill your clan is ready. That does not make us mad its just stupid and makes DP clan scene look immature in the gameing world, thanks guys. LOL might as well call them {Insaner33t} and be done with it otherwise why don't you pick up Ritual or Merl? You cant hardly call it a clan match if you are not using your own memebers. See the point? Should there not be rules against this at the very least? Wow this is beond stupid.
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does he play under tha name DirtyTaco for you?
Nope. DT played under swk. So how can you say "he's practically in our clan" when he is blatently playing under one of your members names. That is being sneaky, clearly trying to make it that nothing out of the ordinary is happening. How is that not a big deal, when double-clanning isn't supposed to happen, it happens constantly. This is getting meddling stupid.
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lol @ double-teamers
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thats exactly what i was getting at.
Its pathetic. In my opinion clans should stick together as a group. Train and work together to improve and get better at the game, thats what QeHs was formed on.
I think for too many people the above has no meaning, but rather lets win by any means available to us, and if we lose, lets not add a loss anyway.
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we've used dirtytaco like 3 times out of our almost 100 matches. No, he has not used the name "DirtyTaco" in the match. Really dont know what you guys want me to say. I already explained myself. Im merely providing DirtyTaco a way of matching since noone chooses to play eR33t. Everytime eR33t has asked us in the past month we havent had enough on. It's not our faults.
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double clanning is wrong
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Loial Merl is still in xb fyi
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arrmatey left cF. for unknown reasons to join . Whe found that you were using dt in matches she quit to play for ch1ll again. i have a feeling dt played for more than 3 matches.
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why cause we beat you?
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maybe thats why he said it, doesn't make what he said any less valid though.
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lmao Loial shouldn't say anything. Look at your clan, turns down every clan that asks to match. GT is so worried about their record they won't match anyone besides unknown clans from like africa.
Yeah we used DT, even when we've used DT he hasn't done the best on our team and we've beat basically every clan with out him. We've used him maybe 4 times. Most of the clans we play just sit in their base and spray every entrance, so boring and we don't need DT to win we do just fine without him.
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its funny how you defend using another teams player, rather than admit its wrong of you to decieve your opponents, in much the same way that hacking is used to decieve opponents.
Choosing not to match clans is not the same as choosing to decieve clans.
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Boom,
Are clan is so disorganized due to real life situations (confilcting schedules), We worked real hard just to make pbcup matches. We really should not matching unless its pre-arranged, like PB cup. Sure we dont want to loose, do you? Scared to loose no, we joined PB CUP did you? Plus this is not the only game and or clan I have played for, i got every right to talk. Comon you know this, you were just learing how to use toilet while I was clanning. Just stop trying to discredit people that you personally called friends. Im still one. Dont be a sk8ter h8ter.
Lastly I made some valid points regardless of who my clan is or was. Which point did you not agree with? I would use you as a prime example of a clan hopper but I like you and you are smart and you tend to keep your mouth shut unless you are correcting someone. In my case you are wrong. Sorry for the call out it was needed.
OJ,
1. XB is a great example of what a DP clan should be and also a clan great clan to play against.
2. Merl sucks ok. You can keep him. :) HI Merl !!!
I knew that Merl had not switched clans. I was using extremes to make a point, something that Boomer chooses to ignore and sk8ter wont ever understand. Sorry XB whooped are arse but as I recall I took out your whole team more than once, :) and thanks for the FYI. See ya on the battle front.
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bahahahahahahahaha
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:) And now you know.
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Cuz its Mike's super-short show!
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NO NO!!!! NOT HIM!!!???!!!
3 hours later........ OH yeah!
Forced back up... :(
What?
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Stay on topic.
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I agree that Bain is a great leader. And i'm not saying it wasnt wrong of us to use him. I didn't even realize it was DT until I looked at the ping. I'm not denying anything about that.
Yeah I didn't play in PBCup and that's prolly cause I didn't want to. I probably won't even be able to make most of this seasons but I will try. I don't care if we lose, big deal a loss is a loss. But the fact that clans camping the whole time is really boring and takes the fun out of the game. I know I camp but seriously, rushing 1v3 and 1v4 thats just stupid.
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But the fact that clans camping the whole time is really boring and takes the fun out of the game. I know I camp but seriously, rushing 1v3 and 1v4 thats just stupid.
It will be this way untill rules are made daming violaters from camping on flag. If you dont like it petition to have it banned otherwise stop whining about tatics you have no control over.
Personally speaking it should not matter what tatic is used any Good player / clan will and can overcome any tatic. I found a heavly defended base is harder to overcome rather than confronting assulting players .
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Its very true what loial said. If you are really good at the game campers should present no problem. And besides, its quite a good way for noobs to start getting some kills and start getting better at the game.
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I think camping is more of an issue with map design, really. 1-path maps like indune will lead to camping because it's simple to do. On something like routez, though, it's very difficult.
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Map design? Or the reality of giving up points for a grabs? Routez is no as easy to defend as any other map. By defend I mean, this. If the team defending is up why defend flag? That is a flaw in the point assignment not flag design or map design. Something sharon and I will be hitting you up with Jitspoet.
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Not sure how I got brought into this... but thanks, BooMeR :P
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:D
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Your welcome Bain =)
Loial wow i'm not complaining.... I am just saying it is getting really boring. That is just my opinion you don't need to get all rude about it. And I agree with jits, I think it has to do with map designs.
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Team CC you can't see there record. It just says "Matches: 108" or whatever, so I am not sure. I assume it isn't great otherwise they would show what it is. However, someone from CC correct me if I am wrong. Just an assumption.
CC's record is great... We are currently on a 106 game winning streak..
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eR33t is the best. period.
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eR33t is the best. period.
No way. You serious? Holy excrement. Nice post. I am now going to sleep through the night knowing that eR33t is the best period. Thank you for informing us all of that.
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CC has never lost. The end. GG.
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proof? screenshots? demos?
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CC has never lost. The end. GG.
Hahahaha lmfao sure
orly...
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I love how people get worked up...
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lmao just a big flame war... but i was like dirty_taco in the sense i couldnt sit anywhere for long. i got over that by playing counterstrike where i needed to defend the bomb, give it a try dt it helped me alot
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You win some, and you lose some, but you live to fight another day! ;)
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lmao just a big flame war... but i was like dirty_taco in the sense i couldnt sit anywhere for long. i got over that by playing counterstrike where i needed to defend the bomb, give it a try dt it helped me alot
DirtyTaco knows all about camping, he used to be a seasoned Natural Selection player ;)