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Paintball 2: The Game => Paintball 2 Discussion => Topic started by: KnacK on May 07, 2006, 08:45:25 PM
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I have seen it all now.
For those of you that have known me for all these years, and those new comers that have jsut meet me, the DP community has hit an all time low.
For those that remember, I have had broadband access for over 7 years until I started building my new house. SInce then dialup is the norm with pings around 200-250 generally. I have played all the servers, been the brunt of a lot of HPB jokes ( that I take really well, and I take a neutral stand on all most all of the daily fueding that happens in our little community.
Well, today the lowest of the low has happened. I finally got my ping to average around 140 -180 and proud as hell about it. So I get on the GT servers, like I have been since the GT servers were created, and started playing. a few minutes in to a game tonight and Sharon tells me to fix my ping or leave.
WTF????
Is there a minimum ping now? SO I proceed to get kicked from the server bu Sharon due to a 140-160 ping. I don't know what to say.... I hope that Sharon is in the minority and this isn't a GT clan issue. >:(
I, well, am pissed. I can't believe it happened. Maybe if my ping was 300+ but averaging 150??
All I can say is that it's not my right to play on the GT servers, it's a privilege, and they can run them any way they want.
Until I see something different, I chose not to play on the GT servers.
*** GT Rules ***
GRaFFiTi PaiNT
Server rules:
1: No visual abnormalities.
2: No HACKS.
3. No BOTS allowed.
4. No flooding server(oversizing packets).
5. No Abusive behavior toward anyone.
6. No settings that harm others will be allowed.
7. No spoofing names.(This includes clan tags, and use of a pseudonym to start hate and discontent).
8. If you are lagging in server you will be asked to reconnect.
9. If you are asked to stop spamming do your best and comply.
10.Yes netiquette is allowed!
You will be warned of these offenses after which you will be kicked and/or banned.
You can be kicked at any time for any reason. That is the server owner's right.
Yuppers, that is your right. It's your server. ::)
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The admins are clearly idiots. HAHA YEAH RIGHT, GET A NEW CONNECTINO intercourseR YOUR SUCKING THE BANDWIDTH UP AND MAKING US LAG!
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sharon really is clueles... no offence. When there is lag on a GT server her and robert start screaming on vent "OMG WTF LAG!!! WHO TURNED THE GODDAM HACKS ON?!?!"
again.. no offence.. but congrats on ping knack!
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again.. no offence.. but congrats on ping knack!
Thanks Smokey ;D
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Obviously Sharon doesnt realize the lag is from her garbage comp which she has told us on vent that she averages 20 fps and she thinks thats good. "I FEEL LIKE IM WALKING THROUGH PEANUT BUTTER"
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ttt
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Hehe. Why hasn't loial popped up in this yet?
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i was in that server. indune was the map. atm u had about a 600 + ping. You said a rude remark and sharon said to fix for ping. You stayed around for about 5 mins and the ping did not change. She then decided to kick after your ping did not change.
"I am sorry if i offened you in any way. There were lots of high pings in the server at that time. I am trying to be fair about the fact that many people had pings over 400." -Sharon
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i was in that server. indune was the map. atm u had about a 600 + ping. You said a rude remark and sharon said to fix for ping. You stayed around for about 5 mins and the ping did not change. She then decided to kick after your ping did not change.
I was not rude and my ping was not 600+. Maybe right when I joined but if I had a ping like that ( which is unplayable btw) I would have immediately left the server to see wtf was going on. Sharon asked me to fix my ping. I said " Yea right, Im on dialup" Nothing crude or hateful.
This is not the first tiem I've been kicked from the server by her or other admins, just the last straw.
And XSV-Boy, if you don't have a ss of my ping, stay out of it, as when sharon asked me to leave, my ping was well under 200.
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Knack IDK what happened, sorry that happend to you. I got more to say to you below. Thanks XSV
S8kater she has a new computer you idoit. Go to Opraha ya freak adn stop piping in on matters which you clearly know nothing about.
James, right on par, picking on thoose less intellegent huh? Good job, hope you feel better about your self now that we all know how much better you are than her. What a moron. Why do you even bother playing there,really? "OMG THERE SO STUPID" "YET I will play there any way" Why do you play there? You got other choices numnutz, use them. nice 2 cents. How are they clearly idoits. Just the other day bain and taco were praising the GT adminship [derrek speficially] *shakes head.
Knack you were asked to do something, you did not comply. Are you suprised that you were? If so why? All you had to do was reconnect. That is all. You know the rules even if you dont agree with them. All you had to do was go to the forum and complain, before you got kicked. Why did you not take this course of action? Almost makes me belive you provoked her by not leaving untill she was forced to kick you [almost]. She has every right to do this. BTW where are your screen shots? This is no way a reflection of clan hatred to Smurfs far from it. We like little blue men, just like we like little green men. This is not fun for anyone. We dont like warning or kicking people. Perhaps if you were to use a little common curtisy and listen to what the admin is asking and simply reconnect then I would suspect there would have been no problem. Was this admin abuse, no. Was a player not following rules handed down and known about prior to playing, yes .Does Sharon have a agenda to kick people that ping around 150-200, no. There would have been hundreds if not thousands of complaints, if that was the case. Also are you banned? If so I will personally ask to have you removed seeing that your post was the only mature post that had merit. I am sure Sharon is sorry that she had to do this, its not in her nature. So what you should do is drop in vent and talk it out, if you care about such things. Knack i just noticed this....
This is not the first tiem I've been kicked from the server by her or other admins, just the last straw.
Why were you kicked, I expect and honest mature responce, if not please dont.
eii Its not my server but I have talked to you about this and why those rules are in place. Find me one admin in
bf2 or americas army that pays hundreds of dollars for lag free gaming and puts up with one player lagging the server, oh and it does happen, look at my thread about GT servers and play more often, this is broadband era not dail-up. We pay for our internet services and we expext what we pay for, lag free gaming.
Lastly one thing james skter smokey and others cant grasp due to lack of maturity. Is that those rules are in place for the sake of fun, not for the sake of our ego or bravado, something clearly you seem to identify with. Worthless traits.
Edited for your viewing pleasure.
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...there we go.
Loial, you make me sad.
Sharon asked him to do something he really couldn't do, and he gets kicked for it? How could he prevent this/how is this his fault?
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Eii, then why did he not reconnect or at least try to fix it, on dial up you can connect to a different access point less congested. She he asked him to fix it, exactly.
That why we need screen shots of exactly what happened. So if she was wrong we can show her why so that it wont happen again. We are adults that can make mistakes.
Untill then leave this up to knack and her, please.
Dont be sad. As I said before we do this in the name of fun for all not one. :)
Please move topic where it should have been and also please notice the crap a GT admin has to put up with on a hourly basis.
http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=1857.20
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loial.... you have yet to explain how sharon crys on vent that it is hacks. she obviously dosent understand how the internets work.
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Three quick things.
1.Loial.... you have yet to explain how Sharon crys on vent that it is hacks.
I asked some relevant questions first, why dont you answer them. What she does on vent is what she does. Kind of like I dont go around telling people how you asked if you could make out with me, or if I every kissed a boy, wtf was that? All of this in front of children, which btw should been enough to ban you, but I am not an mad, just married.
2.she obviously doesn't understand how the internets work.
Why is the important? I dont recall that being a prerequisite to being an admin. I think fairness to other players is something you are forgeting here and why those rules are there. Go to other games that run PB and pay for kick ass servers, they dont put up with players that either visually lag or have a high ping
3. She asked him to fix it. She did not have to. Knack could have said" WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO" He didn't. I think like when Jitspoe got kicked last year on my server Knack is a victim of circumstance rather than a victim of a certain rule 'per say'or vendetta. Both parties from what I have read [btw is pure conjecture and subjective to biasism as clearly show above] could have done things better.
Personally speaking I dont care. I like Knack, I like Sharon. The rest of you go to Oprah with your useless complaints.
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Knack already said that this is the LOWEST PING he's gets. Pretty much ever. Reconnecting would probably only raise his ping.
Nothing.
He.
Could.
Do.
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Again, as everyone else has stated, Sharon is not the smartest person to ever admin a server
you have yet to explain how sharon crys on vent that it is hacks. she obviously dosent understand how the internets work.
as for the whole "connect to a different routing point" idea, why would anyone do that when their ping is the lowest it's ever been? really, why? shouldnt a server admin realize that dailup = HPB no matter what. Not to mention that it seems as if everyones ping at the time was high.
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well..with that said loial.. here is what i have to say
1. Kind of like I don't go around telling people how you asked if you could make out with me, or if I every kissed a boy, wtf was that? All of this in front of children, which btw should been enough to ban you, but I am not an mad, just married.
You fail to mention how you said you had really kissed a boy
2.she obviously doesn't understand how the internets work.
Why is the important? I dont recall that being a prerequisite to being an admin. I think fairness to other players is something you are forgeting here and why those rules are there. Go to other games that run PB and pay for kick ass servers, they dont put up with players that either visually lag or have a high ping
This isn't AA. K? This is DP. Sharon isn't the brightest crayon in the box, nor are you. Knack is a respectable person who had a low ping for once. Sharon had to ruin it for her own pleasure. If someone is lagging its not like its impacting the players on the server. 99% of them suck. And we all know it wasn't causing Sharon to play any worse.
3. She asked him to fix it. She did not have to. Knack could have said" WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO" He didn't. I think like when Jitspoe got kicked last year on my server Knack is a victim of circumstance rather than a victim of a certain rule 'per say'or vendetta. Both parties from what I have read [btw is pure conjecture and subjective to biasism as clearly show above] could have done things better.
He is a victim of blatant stupidity by an admin.
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well, not really sure whats goin on, but it seems sharon thought Knacks ping was 600+ or something.
If this isn't teh case, and it really is just a case of "blatant stupidity", someone should tell her what a high ping and what a low ping is...?
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Smokey
1. Kind of like I don't go around telling people how you asked if you could make out with me, or if I every kissed a boy, wtf was that? All of this in front of children, which btw should been enough to ban you, but I am not an mad, just married.
You fail to mention how you said you had really kissed a boy
Please dont lie, it ruins your credibility, but funny. So which color are you smokey? Lol Its so easy to generalize people you know absolutely nothing about. Nice guess work there pal. You and sk8ter are coming along well as Digi's and Bob's clones.
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She obviously doesn't understand how the internets work.
Why is the important?
Sure she could have been mistaken, I am sure if you have the balls to ask her your self, but I doubt this. Also you never answered any of my questions all you did was spew worthless lies about how she is stupid and did stuff on purpose. All of it untrue. Couple of things are wrong with this:
1. You sir are clueless or if you perfer 'stupid' on what good sportmanship and being a 'fair' admin is all about. So for you to call anyone stupid is hypocritical and good indication of what kind of person you are.
2.This has less to do with 'networking knowledge' and more to do with being fair. Something you are choosing to ignore because you are wrong and ignorant of what an fair and honest people are try to do, to make this game better. Please argue being 'fair' as it is more on topic than calling someone stupid. That should offer you a trip to the forum temp band wagon.
You need to bring more than this to the table. Perhaps a thoughtful, insightful responce from you would be warrented, appreciated and god dam refreshing. Not one thing you said up there is true (other than she did not major in networking, have you?) Nor did you answer any of my questions. Typical hater.
Everyone else. Please re-read XSV and Knacks post. He did infact have a HIGH PING, Knack admitted this. XSV commented on this and Sharon acted on this. Did he have a high ping when he got kicked? Who knows and why do you care so much there are worse things being done in this game (ask jitspoe) then protecting ones own investment. Perhaps if you had invested money plus time, you to would have a different point of view. Which brings me to Smokey's comment about this not being AA this is DP.
1. Duh
2. If you could think past Duh, you would realize that America's Army with all of its faults is a superior gaming model. That is why it is the most successful Free FPS around. Here are some reasons why.
a. Organization.
b. Dedicated admins stomping out the rift raft with PB and tight rules, something you are not used to dealing with. Get used to it.
c. Money. People contribute to the betterment of the game. How many of you considered offering your time and money to make this game better. I can see from the above posts. Not one of you has. The only thing you bring to the table is your mouths, which if it was spewing something worth while towards the betterment of this game, then perhaps I could concede that name calling does this game good. Until then consider your actions, or do you? I wonder sometimes. Its not like your being held accountable for them. Good thing for you posting ability Jitspoe is fair. You dont see childish behavior on the AA forums. They are dedicated to making the game better not calling names. Good job on calling someone a name. What good did that do? Answer that.
This is something that Knack and the GT admins should be discussing? Why does he not resolve this with them? Please review this, right on par with the past interfering with peoples good judgment. http://dpball.com/forums/index.php?topic=552.msg4343#msg4343Notice the Date and time of my post. Please also notice that the adminship has improved, as declared by Bain and Taco. For you to complain about it and still play there makes you clearly the larger 'idiot' or less 'colorful crayon'. If Taco, Bain and I can see that things have improved clearly so can the rest of you doubters.
Lekky and Knack for his part eii are the only ones who are trying to make sense and who's argument has merit, But as described above and mentioned by my self and now lekky, if you care so much about this, go to her and help, don't be a geek.
Lastly He was asked to do something, its that simple. He could have asked "WHAT CAN I DO" something each and every one of you has seem to ignore. Why? Because Sharon might have actually showed more 'intellect' then you are giving her credit for and would have been helpful to him. Answer that you...little minded persons.
Edited from home.
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i know what AA is like. iv played it and sometimes still do. however.. it isn't perfect..... its like comparing apples and oranges, you cant do it.
As for Sharon kicking him.. it was a stupid action that you fail to see. you have yet to acknowledge any flaws found with gt.
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Kind of like I dont go around telling people how you asked if you could make out with me, or if I every kissed a boy, wtf was that? All of this in front of children, which btw should been enough to ban you, but I am not an mad, just married.
DON'T INTRODUCE THE CHILDREN TO THE HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE! THEY'LL SURELY BE CONVERTED!
...It's like a cult.
An evil cult.
Eeeeeevil
Two things:
1. Despite the length of your posts, they're pretty much pointless.
2. Homophobia makes you look bad.
(Had to replace 'merry' with homosexual. Because.)
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being a 'fair' admin is all about
Being a fair font admin would be letting everyone play, regardless of ping.
It's like not letting the old people use your bus company because they take longer to walk on and off and are making the trip slightly longer than everone else.
Personally, when I see an admin kicking someone for unfair reasons it just makes me want to not play on those servers. So how is bad admining protecting your investment if it's turning people of from playing on your servers?
Also, please don't preach to us and compare us to AA with the funding thing. AA is funded by the department of defense, and no offense to jitspoe or anything but I doubt he could match that to make the superior game model or whatever you are talking about. (I find pb more fun than aa anyway so w/e)
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It's like not letting the old people use your bus company because they take longer to walk on and off and are making the trip slightly longer than everone else.
well, not really. in fact, its nothing at all like that..
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You invest in the bus, and you don't let the slower people ride it because it marginally affects the other passengers trip.
It's everything like that, why should the people who can't do anything about their oldness not be allowed to ride the bus in the same way as how people on dialup who have bad ping can't do anything either.
This metaphor is silly but it's the same thing.
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i know what AA is like. iv played it and sometimes still do. however.. it isn't perfect..... its like comparing apples and oranges, you cant do it.
As for Sharon kicking him.. it was a stupid action that you fail to see. you have yet to acknowledge any flaws found with gt.
Stupid? No. Unwarranted? Perhaps. We all have flaws even you, which BTW you have yet to own up to. You could have dropped by vent and helped her out. Why didn't you? Also you base this off what? Knacks post? Even he said he was pinging high as did another player. So high in fact he said it would have been unplayable. You have no argument first because you were not affected. Second because you are not willing to be apart of the solution just part of the problem. Answer this, (all though I doubt you will, you seem to evade every question asked of you) other than calling someone stupid what good have you done to help better DP. I guarantee she is trying to make things better. Something you are not which is evident in the quality of your post.
Apples and oranges are both fruits. AA and DP are both fps. The only difference is in the way the game play is played or the way the fruit tastes. Most gamers in either game have no problems with rules that help ensure lag free gamming. The only ones that do usually have a problem normally have nefarious reasons, including personal vendettas, which don’t belong in the forum. Go to Oprah with that crap
EII.
1. How does any of this affect you?
2.Sexual conduct in a private channel with children is not appreciated, you obviously have no children or simply don’t care what they are exposed to. Now asking for a kiss and asking for a sexual encounter are agreeable different, sorry but Smokey needs to learn that Sharon is not the only imperfect person. Calling her that, is hypocritical, we all make mistakes. BTW As I am sure you know, if I would have made it clearer its not homophobia that I affronted by those who make sexual advances in front of children. That sickens me. What 2 consenting adults do is there business. Agreed? You really should get to know someone before you start being so judgmental. I would be more than delighted to talk to you or anyone anytime (as would any GT admin, BTW I am not one just a friend and clan member), something you need to do before speaking about something you know nothing. Granted I don’t know the q2 engine or its finer points as evident in my posts, but I know enough how to play and how to have fun. Lag for anyone is not fun. Agreed?
3.Now what about my posts are pointless? PM please. I am very curious to see what was pointless. So in the future I can be more on point with you. I had others read it here at work, moderators from the AAO forums, also Punkbusters "Stuart Dunsmore" and the wife at home. They completely understood ever point I was making and was sadden for me that I took so much time to ask valid questions to all concerned just to have them ignored, something most of you choose to do. So I look forward to talking with you, if you are serious about my post having no merit or point.
Qoo.
Nice alias, do we know each other? Never seen you before, but I am guessing I have.
I respect what you saying about all people being able to play. That is one reason GT does not out right kick dial-up users. Here is problem, (generalized) when the game is played and someone is causing lag on the server or themselves. The admins get complaints about it all the time (something the rest of you ignore due to ignorance or hate) and they do. I have gone to Jitspoe about it. All I got was this ”It’s a networking issue”. I already knew this. Although to his credit I never finshed anwsering his questions about what I run in the background of the game (the only thing I run is Windows 98se) thats all. We ask for a simple reconnect of high pings. Sadly, this is a catch 22. AGAIN WE DON”T BAN OR KICK people for having dail-up or for living in Europe. Other wise as stated before there would be thousands of kicks by now. You do understand that right? This simply will not be tolerated. Plus he was warned. Something I thing the lot you failed to take into consideration or even acknowledge. If the admin wants a lag free game let him. Players have the privilege to play not a right abuse the administrations good intentions which is again something you all are overlooking
Now onto AAO and comments made about it. Department of Defense is funding the deployment and development that is all. Stuff like the forum moderators and server admins do it for free. Again D.O.D does not fund servers nor do the fund AASA the key driving force of its success. AASA runs a tight ship. Something this game needs to take it to the next level (a tight ship). This has more to do with server rules and quality of play rather than anything Jitspoe has done or can do regarding the code. FYI, I try to contribute as much money to Jitspoe’s baby,(ask him) the other scrubs that posted here have not nor do they intended to help, well maybe Smokey.. Not a knock against them, its a free game. But nothing pisses me off more than people who have nothing better to do than run their mouth and not help, which is again something we can all agree is blatant. I am over zealous for a good reason. I care about friendship and good sportsmanship, something that is sorely lacking now. Ask 4thx
I have an idea that I will bring to Jitspoe and Derrek this week.
If you have a problem on the GT servers we will give you a chance to talk to us about it, rather than spewing hurtful, undeserving comments that have nothing to do with Knack and his complaint. They really need to understand GT more than any clan is now trying to clean things up. When we make a mistake, be patient and don’t act like a fool who had his wang cut off. Because if you look its still there.
edit. What happens if someone on that bus craps in it and does not stop. What if the people on the bus chipped in to not have slowness (lag not dial-up)? BTW please re-read we dont kick becuase of dial-up or location.
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You invest in the bus, and you don't let the slower people ride it because it marginally affects the other passengers trip.
It's everything like that, why should the people who can't do anything about their oldness not be allowed to ride the bus in the same way as how people on dialup who have bad ping can't do anything either.
This metaphor is silly but it's the same thing.
Yes, but the regardless of how old they are, they all pay for that service so that they can take the trip and take as much time as they need. However, in this situation, the users playing on the server owe the admins (or bus drivers/facility that runs buses) nothing, it's a privilege. So if I were to put that in your context: the buses are free, so they can choose to let anyone on and keep whoever they want off to limit the gas prices.
It isn't the same in the fact that you invest money in the bus, but invest nothing in the server.
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EII.
1. How does any of this affect you?
It really doesn't. But, I'm in here anyway.
2.Sexual conduct in a private channel with children is not appreciated, you obviously have no children or simply don’t care what they are exposed to. Now asking for a kiss and asking for a sexual encounter are agreeable different, sorry but Smokey needs to learn that Sharon is not the only imperfect person. Calling her that, is hypocritical, we all make mistakes. BTW As I am sure you know if I would have made it clearer its not homophobia that I afflicted by its pedophilia. That sickens me. What 2 consenting adults do is there business. Agreed? You really should get to know someone before you start being so judgmental.
I usually think what people say is a pretty good judge of their character.
You somehow tie this in with Sharon. That part I ignored.
I don't see how 'exposing' children to any hint of homosexuality is bad. And what's this about pedophilia? Your sentence makes it sound like you're a pedophile.
Actually, yes. It almost certainly says that, apart from the poor sentence structure.
Granted I don’t know the q2 engine or its finer points as evident in my posts, but I know enough how to play and how to have fun. Lag for anyone is not fun. Agreed?
Lag is not fun. But completely destroying one person's experience for the sake of 4-6 others, when lag doesn't even effect them that much?
(And about your posts being filled with fluff- that could have been reduced to the last sentence alone.)
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TWO CENT TIME....................
GT owned servers = they do what they want, how they want, end of story.
Now.........
If we want to get logical here, well then...
Why did kicking people for high pings every start to begin with?
Well i'm no expert (actually I am, but it sounded go to say that), but there are a couple reasons.
1) To keep all players on an even playing field. In large games with 100s or 1000s of servers for that game, kicking a high ping to let a lower ping in made the higher ping go find a server with a better ping giving everyone a better experience all around.
2) In the really old game having a high ping was a twisted advantage to some extent. Low ping shoots at you in one spot, but on you side you are in another spot and don't die. Descent was notorious for this. You could pumel someone only to have them instantly warp to another location because the packets got caught up.
So in a game where you can barely fill even one 14 slot server on any given night, kicking for high ping is utterly rediculous.
TWO CENTS OVER...please deposit another 2 cents to continue....<dial tone>
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I want my two cents back.
His ping wasn't that bad- only 200 or so. That's not awful.
And as Knack has said, this is the best ping he gets pretty much ever. There would be no lower pinging server. And if there was, it probably wouldn't have anyone in it.
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The admins get complaints about it all the time (something the rest of you ignore due to ignorance or hate) and they do.
Complaints as in what? People saying omg lag in game? Because half the time it's used as an excuse for getting shot.
I do live in Europe, and I don't associate the GT servers with lag because I never get it, at all. Granted I'm not on dial up, but I don't get a ping thats higher on average than any other servers I play on either. So I doubt the lagging problem is really that severe.
If there's something I'm not seeing here (where?) then I take it back. I just don't experience what you are talking about.
Now onto AAO and comments made about it. Department of Defense is funding the deployment and development that is all. Stuff like the forum moderators and server admins do it for free. Again D.O.D does not fund servers nor do the fund AASA the key driving force of its success. AASA runs a tight ship. Something this game needs to take it to the next level (a tight ship). This has more to do with server rules and quality of play rather than anything Jitspoe has done or can do regarding the code. FYI, I try to contribute as much money to Jitspoe’s baby,(ask him) the other scrubs that posted here have not nor do they intended to help, well maybe Smokey.. Not a knock against them, its a free game. But nothing pisses me off more than people who have nothing better to do than run their mouth and not help, which is again something we can all agree is blatant. I am over zealous for a good reason. I care about friendship and good sportsmanship, something that is sorely lacking now. Ask 4thx
Yeah, of course people mod and admin for free, because it's fun ;)
And efficiency of packet transmissions can be fixed in the coding, not that I think there are any problems with it though.
Yes, but the regardless of how old they are, they all pay for that service so that they can take the trip and take as much time as they need. However, in this situation, the users playing on the server owe the admins (or bus drivers/facility that runs buses) nothing, it's a privilege. So if I were to put that in your context: the buses are free, so they can choose to let anyone on and keep whoever they want off to limit the gas prices.
It isn't the same in the fact that you invest money in the bus, but invest nothing in the server.
Well don't invest on something if you know you aren't going to get a return on it. :)
However, you do get a return from your investment as a server admin. You invest your time to play on their server and not someone else's. I'm sure they like people to play on their servers, they don't get monetary return, but hey what fun is paying for it all and having nobody play on it?
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...but hey what fun is paying for it all and having nobody play on it?
Tons of fun. Because there'll be no lag! Just think of it! Everyone can have their own, completely lag-free server!
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What if one of the bots has 56k?
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Perma-ban. But who needs bots? They just slow down your computer. Way too much, I might add. I keep dying because the bots slow down my computer SOOOOO much.
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Complaints as in what? People saying Mg lag in game? Because half the time it's used as an excuse for getting shot.
;D Yup!!. That and alot of personal attacks, that should have been complaints. >:(
I do live in Europe, and I don't associate the GT servers with lag because I never get it, at all. Granted I'm not on dial up, but I don't get a ping thats higher on average than any other servers I play on either. So I doubt the lagging problem is really that severe.
Really? I live in San Antonio, Texas. I ping under a 24 on light traffic days and 38-40ish at worst extreme conditions. Its not that severe? What about this? Its about a 6 second glitch. What would happen to someone on dial-up and not broadban. This happens alot more than you think. I have a lot of pictures just like this and all kinds of servers with all diffrent kinds of maps.
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I've never seen/experienced that happening.
EDIT: And I continue to get every other post.
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Well that is becuase you hardly ever play with others. Would you like to see more? Perhaps you could help.
*edit me 2, just got s8n and eiii retort, way late.
S8n, he was pinging over 600 at one point according to one of his post. She warned him. Do we not agree that could effect someones game play not matter the size of the server? Even Knacks game enjoyment?
Perhaps his ping self corrected. If so all he had to do was point this out and ask how else he could help. Not doing so is "utterly rediculous" Asking someone to reconnect is a safegard against any chance of a crappy game play. What she did was excusable and correctable not 'stupid' or clearly 'idiodic"
Eii I edited my post about peda whatever. I was at work and was in a hurry to say a lot of things. I dont have time to placate your perferred sentence structure, or taste in length of point. I am not belaboring so bugger of. Also asking someone to reconnect to a normal person should not devestate thier gaming experince, as a matter of fact there are worse things being done in this game. As we all know. It is a simply public request not devestating question. "please reconnect".
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I don't play often, but I've never experienced that when I did play. In the end, it's just 6 seconds of gameplay that you barely lose. Hardly enough of a reason to keep a good number of people from playing.
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It was one person mabey more not hundreds. We dont kick people for have pings around 200 or germans etc. We dont like kicking, we like playing. If GT kicked a good number of people you would have more complaints. You do understand this right? Again read my post, as long as they are there are understandble. It would be better if we could talk. How can we do this? I have access to serveral vent or ts servers.
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Please stop saying I was pinging 600. I was pinging that when I immediately joined the server, not several minutes later of lag free play at under 200 ping when I got kicked.
Thanks
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So.
+ We all agree that if knacks ping was 600+, sharon was not at fault for kicking him right?
+ Knacks ping was 600+ when he joined the server.
+ Sharon asked him to fix his ping or reconnect.
+ Knacks ping reduced to about 200.
+ Sharon kicked him anyway.
Ok, so it seems to me like sharon was doing the right thing according to GT server rules. From reading, it also seems to me that sharon did not realise that Knacks ping had been reduced, thus kicking him.
There all cleared up! See what can be achieved when a bit of common sense is used?
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Those lag spikes in your screenshot are not caused by other players' pings. Other players pings, however, are impacted by the lag spikes. If the server is lagging and there are a lot of players with high pings, they have high pings because the server is lagging, not the other way around. If this is a frequent problem, perhaps you should look into getting the graffiti servers hosted in another location.
That being said, an individual player's lag is often visible to other players. His movement will be choppy and sometimes he will freeze midair. This does not cause lag for other players, but it can be annoying. This is more dependant on packet loss than ping. Perhaps, despite KnacK's "low" ping, he had severe packet loss and was lagging all over the map. Perhaps Sharon just made a mistake. In any case, unless this is repetitive behavior, I don't see why it's such a huge deal. It's nothing like the "good old days" when you'd get viewgibbed for capturing a flag.
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it can be annoying
Especially when you shoot them in one place, but they've moved by the time your paint gets there.
:'(
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I don't see why it's such a huge deal.
Please look below and you will find out why it a big deal.
I want these forums to be a place where people can come to get help, provide feedback, and exchange ideas, not a place to throw insults at each other
I can name several forum members that only threw insults and offered nothing. They act with impunity as if this is their place to insult others.
Despite server or map, these lag spikes happen to me only in DP Jitspoe.
So what your saying there is NO WAY possible for another player to cause the server or other players to lag, or ruin others gaming experience by other means? :o :o :o
Lekky, thanks. If you ever make it to San Antonio I owe you a dinner for saying what they already know but refused to admit due to something not worth mentioning. I don't think it was a lack of common sense, just a lack of maturity and a blatant attempt to insult someone. Something I tried my hardest to avoid.
*Jitspoe, you mentioned something about GT hosting in a different location. Was that in reference to my location?
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So what your saying there is NO WAY possible for another player to cause the server or other players to lag, or ruin others gaming experince by other means? :o :o :o
Not really. The only realy problem would be if there was lots of packet loss.
Also, you seem to think that you(Read: Everyone) deserve a good gaming experience constantly. That's not the case. As long as no one's breaking the rules (and heaven forbid they do), there's really nothing wrong. You don't like it? Play somewhere else.
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loial: I was referring to the fact that Sharon kicked KnacK not being that big of a deal. As for a player causing lag for other players, if player A has a poor connection, he isn't going to cause player B to lag. You could cause people to lag and ruin their playing experience, however, by giving everybody autocockers in a small, 1-path map. That has nothing to do with other players' pings, though. The hosting comment was merely that GT's servers appear to have had some lag spikes as of late and perhaps the quality of the hosting there has gone down and GT should look into getting hosting elsewhere.
On a lighter note...
[04:09:52] <jitspoe> !seen delirious
[04:10:11] <jitspoe> no seen scripts active?
[04:10:19] <[CC]MaDMaN> Hows it going jitspoe
[04:10:26] <jitspoe> not bad
[04:10:34] <[CC]MaDMaN> good, i have a question
[04:10:46] <[CC]MaDMaN> is there a way to make DP not lag on a 64bit pc?
[04:10:55] <[CC]MaDMaN> i get horrid lag spikes every 10 min or so
[04:11:22] <[Smurf]KnacK> jitspoe: I last saw delirious (~steven@c-65-34-190-177.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) join #paintball on Sat, May 06 2006 at 8:15pm (5days 7hrs 5mins 51secs ago).
[04:11:49] <jitspoe> good lord, it's no wonder sharon kicked you
[04:12:02] <[CC]MaDMaN> lol haha
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Jits,
What about the comments made towards Sharon? How does that help? *Your (you are) ignoring this. Yet again. Why? How many insults must a clan / persons endure before its perfect? Thats 4 questions. I think :)
EII,
The only really problem would be if there was lots of packet loss
How many pics of this would you like or from different players?
Also, you seem to think that you(Read: Everyone) deserve a good gaming experience constantly
Good questions, when have you paid for one? For how long? For how many dollars?
Eiii I got four questions above.
*edit You could cause people to lag and ruin their playing experience
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[03:21] <jitspoe> !seen delirious
[03:21] <[Smurf]KnacK> jitspoe: I last saw delirious (~steven@c-65-34-190-177.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) join #paintball on Sat, May 06 2006 at 8:15pm (5days 7hrs 5mins 51secs ago).
[03:22] <jitspoe> no seen scripts active?
[03:22] <[CC]MaDMaN> Hows it going Jitspoe
[N] [o: 5][v: 2][n: 40][t: 46][m: +tncl 51]
[03:22] <jitspoe> not bad
[03:22] <[CC]MaDMaN> good, i have a question
[03:22] <[CC]MaDMaN> is there a way to make DP not lag on a 64bit pc?
[N] [o: 5][v: 2][n: 40][t: 46][m: +tncl 51]
[03:22] <[CC]MaDMaN> i get horrid lag spikes every 10 min or so
[03:23] <jitspoe> good lord, it's no wonder sharon kicked you
[03:23] <[CC]MaDMaN> lol haha
In my own defense, it appears that I was rejoining the channel from being disconnected. :P
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I wasn't ignoring it. That's just not what I was talking about. You took my comment to be about something it wasn't.
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What are you going to in the future to stop people from attacking others in the forum with out provacation? I saw you ban serveral children for saying obsene hurting commnets. I guess becuase its a GT member that was being assulted its does not matter then? ;)
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Perhaps you haven't noticed the absence of Smokey posts recently?
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(This was to loial, then jits had to jump in. Shame on you.)
Thats the way I see it. But a more reasonable explanation is that they were provoked by Sharon's actions, even if said actions were by mistake. Also, nothing too hurtful has been said here.
...you kind of implied that being merry is inappropriate though. That's the worst I've seen.
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You inferred something that was never intended in my post, shame on you. That is not the worst you ever seen. Comon.
BTW calling someone and idiot is not hurtful?
Thank you Jitspoe.
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Please Jitspoe, close this thread and let it die a horrible death. The problem was a minor misunderstanding, and I hope people have understood that. This post is now nothing more than a barrage of useless flaming and taunting.
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Yes, please just remove it and dont allow others of its kind to ripe.
"I hope people have understood that" To bad it took several days for them to realize this.