Digital Paint Discussion Board
Fairness Enforcement => Cheater Reports and Bans => Topic started by: shockwave on February 03, 2010, 11:46:27 AM
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sick
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Lol i'm sure the committe have decide that you use wh. Whithout proove that bad to ban someone.
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umm why isnt there a topic about this ? all i could find was the one from 2008...
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http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=19770.msg189024#new
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I think the wallhack modified content thing was just the previous ban I had added on to this one. Why was it added on exactly? But yea make sure "Committee" to restate that SHARING ACCOUNTS "WILL" GET YOU BANNED, not maybe. As for all of you that have shared accounts, dont do it again as you can see... this is the outcome.
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Oh and take the modified content crap off the ban list page, thats old excrement.
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Oh and take the modified content crap off the ban list page, thats old excrement.
Old excrement stays on the page.
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it looks like im banned for using wallhacks but i didn't so take it off. Or say it was a previous ban.
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And why are my previous bans added to this lmfao, is it because im in uR?
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Or it's because that's how things work...
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Or it's because that's how things work...
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Just go with the flow mate, your banned for what you did, period.
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It's alright Shock. Maybe they'll make a topic to change your ban time.
Oh wait, you're not in s2k.
Darn.
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Yeah... That means it would be harder for him :/ Oh well, I have a paypal if you do really want a ban reduction thread. But then my vote in it would only be swayed by cash only... So there's your option.
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Hey Jusu, it's actaully a good idea - let's open a paypal account for Committee members so shk could bribe us to vote lower ban time! I bet he would pay, 1 day passed and he made like 20 rage posts on various subforums here.
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And gama if you are ban that like 100 " LMFAO" peer days out. What a ***** committee :-X they have all wh and dont get ban cus that help committee... sure sure
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i dont understand why u add previous bans to this.. i was banned for using wallhack and when i got banned for multiaccouting it was only 16 days or what ever
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Hey Jusu, it's actaully a good idea - let's open a paypal account for Committee members so shk could bribe us to vote lower ban time! I bet he would pay, 1 day passed and he made like 20 rage posts on various subforums here.
Where did you come up with 20 rage posts from, I posted this because it says modified content on the banlist page and it should be taken off. Just the sharing account should be on there.
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Where did you come up with 20 rage posts from, I posted this because it says modified content on the banlist page and it should be taken off. Just the sharing account should be on there.
Pretty sure it's been said several times, all previous ban reasons are shown.
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And why are my previous bans added to this lmfao, is it because im in uR?
What would your clan affiliation have to do with anything?
It's alright Shock. Maybe they'll make a topic to change your ban time.
Oh wait, you're not in s2k.
Darn.
We didn't make the topic, Jitspoe did. He's the only one to talk to about that.
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I was in s2k, and I got banned... my ban time never changed. Nice try, though. You almost sounded smart for a minute.
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i state again that adding multi-account bans and hacks-bans is a idiotic idea.
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It's his third offence, he's had plenty of chances. It's not fully merged either, I don't know how they came up with 48? days. But He would have 64+ whatever for multiple acc and sharing acc. So they weren't merged. The banlist just shows everything he has currently and has been banned for. Get yo factz straight breh.
DON'T LOOK TO SOON, but the 'inactive' account shk used is suddenly playing today!! BTW: You should add the 'no using private servers while banned' so shk and homing can stop 1v1'ing for the next two months. 2nd day into the ban and still the most active member of the community.
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It's his third offence, he's had plenty of chances. It's not fully merged either, I don't know how they came up with 48? days. But He would have 64+ whatever for multiple acc and sharing acc. So they weren't merged. The banlist just shows everything he has currently and has been banned for. Get yo factz straight breh.
DON'T LOOK TO SOON, but the 'inactive' account shk used is suddenly playing today!! BTW: You should add the 'no using private servers while banned' so shk and homing can stop 1v1'ing for the next two months. 2nd day into the ban and still the most active member of the community.
48 = 16 (multi or sharing) * 3 (3rd offence)
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i state again that adding multi-account bans and hacks-bans is a idiotic idea.
I agree that most multi-account issues are idiotic but am I misreading, or do you really think banning hackers (hack-bans) is idiotic?
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Adding previous bans to most recent ones makes perfect sense to me even if they're "hack-bans" or multi accounting bans... Otherwise you would have people getting banned for 16 days even if this was their 3rd or 4th time banned, and a two week ban isn't that hard to take...
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yea but i already said i was banned for wh then got banned for multi and it was only the normal time so i dont get why shock got so " many " days . We need new commitee =) VOTE ME IN I HAVE HUGE =)
ps. ZIMT IS 12
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There should be a limit on the amount of times you can get banned. Once you hit that limit, perma'd.
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yea but i already said i was banned for wh then got banned for multi and it was only the normal time so i dont get why shock got so " many " days . We need new commitee =) VOTE ME IN I HAVE HUGE =)
ps. ZIMT IS 12
Age discrimination, not getting my vote.
There should be a limit on the amount of times you can get banned. Once you hit that limit, perma'd.
Agreed.
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i meant adding bans for hacking and multi-accounts together. two different levels of offenses. and i think the bans should be added separately
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I'm sure if shockwave wasn't in uR and got banned, you wouldn't care. :P
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Vlad: Do you not understand... THE BANS WEREN'T ADDED TOGETHER. He got 16 days * 3 offenses [which is lucky seeing as he had multiple accounts aswell as sharing accounts]. So be happy that its not 96 days or something. [And that would be not merged fyi. If merged, he'd have probably 80 days then maybe more for multiple offenses. The banlist shows everything he's ever got banned for, not just what he is currently banned for.
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^ Right Myers. Vlad, if we did it the "harsh" way you are explaining it, he would have gotten a 128 ban.... Separate level of offense, yes, but still, 3 offenses to DP. Be glad we didn't do it the way you are trying to put it and give him a 128 day ban. According to your way, we already gave him a break and reduced his ban to 48...
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hmm i did not know his hacking past that well.
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So uh Yeah, he is still playing on private servers, just wondering if the committee has voted on rules for Private servers? I think I read somewhere about making it 'evading' a ban.
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rick please don't bring that up. it creates pointless drama. it is never and never will be ever considered as evading.
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Vlad has spoken.
Topic must be locked.
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Amen
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I'm actually looking for someone from the committee to answer this question. Vlad, seeing as your not on the committee, could you refrain from posting here? Thanks.
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<shk> 3v3 priv serv
* vlad (vlad@vlad.user.globalgamers.net) has joined #team_uR
* ChanServ gives channel operator status to vlad
<skater> lmao
<shk> 3v3 priv
hallo. looks like scrimming or matching. we all agreed that is a big no no. Not gonna consider it as evading vlad? We COULD and SHOULD reset the ban time for such things.
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more stupidity. i did not yet have the time to setup paintball properly on Ubuntu. i have not played in a few weeks. and Cameron first time i am going to say this but that post makes you sound stupid. You Can't And Shouldn't. Jitspoe can but he uses some logic so he won't. if it is a private server no reasonable argument can be made without that person sounding stupid. and Rick are you committee? if not why are you posting here? that topic has been brought up trying to ban me and/or homie. it failed for reasons of logic.
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Actually I was trying to make a point there. I do use logic. The committee uses logic. A discussion was brought up about this a long time ago and reviewed again recently. We all agree that scrimming/matching is something that banned players should NOT do on a private server, and there MAY be consequences. They are banned for a reason. Period.
For now, any clans that get a scrim and you end up seeing a banned playing on that server, leave. Do not play. Simple as that. They are banned for a reason. They can come back and play you after their ban has been served.
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yes if it a private server it is up to the clan to decide if they want to play with him or not. not the committee's. if there is no one else to play with i would understand why they would play with him.
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This game does have rule enforcement you know? If a rule is made, it must be followed. For example hacking. You are not allowed to hack. If you hack, you get banned. You do realize that if everyone played on private servers the GBL would be useless? Theres a reason for it, and you playing matches/scrims on private servers if defeating its purpose. So, the best we can currently do is either encourage other clans not to play on the server, or reset ban times.
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for who cameron? meaning, who will get in trouble?
shock has asked twice for a match with 3iob which
was turned down twice. isn't this issue closed?
its pretty simple to comprehend, play acebots or
a different game till a ban is up.
uncomon sense is now the norm.
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yes that is the best we can do. it is not supported by global login and does not show up on server browser and is password protected it is hard enough to get people in the few that understand and want to let them.
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for who cameron? meaning, who will get in trouble?
shock has asked twice for a match with 3iob which
was turned down twice. isn't this issue closed?
its pretty simple to comprehend, play acebots or
a different game till a ban is up.
uncomon sense is now the norm.
Obviously the person banned would get in trouble.
Good, its getting turned down. I'm glad about that. Some will always accept though...
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yes that is the best we can do. it is not supported by global login and does not show up on server browser and is password protected it is hard enough to get people in the few that understand and want to let them.
Yes its not supported by global login and doesn't show up, thats because its private. But the issue is people continuing to play on private servers while banned because they can't play with their friends on public servers.
I will explain the meaning of a ban. A ban is put in place so one cannot return. You get banned from returning to a bar. You cant return. Theres no such thing as the 'invisible' bar which you can then go to. You are forbidden to enter again. Here, you are banned for a specific time limit. You have done something wrong, like say your parents send you to your bedroom when you were young for 5 minutes to think about what you have done. That time there because you have done something wrong and that time being served is to repay what you have done. Not to continue playing.
Now I wrote that and cbf'd re-reading it to see if it makes sense.
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so we need to create a Nazi rule list?
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I will explain the meaning of a ban. A ban is put in place so one cannot return. You get banned from returning to a bar. You cant return. Theres no such thing as the 'invisible' bar which you can then go to. You are forbidden to enter again.
The private server is like drinking at home with friends.
Behind closed walls, or not online, it's allowed. I say let him play unless you can think of one good reason why he shouldn't. Power trip ftw.
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so we need to create a Nazi rule list?
No. This thread wouldn't exist, none of these issues would exist, heck, this whole board (and the boards we have to deal with these issues) wouldn't exist if people just followed 2-3 simple rules. Bans wouldn't be needed, and the game would actually progress and much of the time is spent dealing with these issues. So pretty much, once someone is on that ban list, that person is letting the community down. He/She is slowing the progression of the game down. May not seem like much time, but all of the issues all add up to a excrementload of time.
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more stupidity. i did not yet have the time to setup paintball properly on Ubuntu. i have not played in a few weeks. and Cameron first time i am going to say this but that post makes you sound stupid. You Can't And Shouldn't. Jitspoe can but he uses some logic so he won't. if it is a private server no reasonable argument can be made without that person sounding stupid. and Rick are you committee? if not why are you posting here? that topic has been brought up trying to ban me and/or homie. it failed for reasons of logic.
I'm obviously not committee. If I was, I wouldn't be asking them a question genius.
Also, I was given an ip and password, I connected and I asked if he was still banned, they said no.
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well first its shockwave then its they. who is they?
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well first its shockwave then its they. who is they?
It was a 2v2, so he obviously had a partner. You work it out and get back to me.
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well you are the one pmsing here i really don't give a excrement about who played on my private server.
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well you are the one pmsing here i really don't give a excrement about who played on my private server.
No-one ever said you did. >.>
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There is no use for private servers (for these type of players) except for allowing banned players to play etc. I think even private servers should connect through dplogin for checks, or else the server shouldn't run... All these private servers are doing now is reverting to the time before dplogin, for hacking and evading and spoofing... Why else would anyone want private servers? (and no, I'm not talking about personal friends just wanting to play together)
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i personally created it for my friends to play on with or without me. it also gives the banned player less desire to try and avoid his/her ban.
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the banned player
This is quite contradictory...
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When me and SuMMit were banned, we played a few times at the start on private servers and were warned that if we continued our ban times would be reset. It was a legit offline server, also didn't Ricks ban get reset multiple times for the same thing? Or was that for something else?
I'm not going to comment on the rule, but I just figured if we were warned about it a year ago, then something would happen to people who do it by now. He's matched multiple times on it, he even makes videos about him on offline servers: http://www.youtube.com/user/ChrisJablonsky#p/u
Actually I changed my mind, I'm going to comment on the rule: If you were actively matching/scrimming with your team/ringers against other teams, staying part of the community as if your still in it, then yeah i'd consider it evading in a way. But if you say... made a map and opened a private server to show some people and you fool around on that map or something along those lines, then no I wouldn't consider it a type of evasion. But where would you draw the line? There really aren't clear rules on the subject, but I guess the committee/jitspoe will decide.
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I honestly don't know what is more sad. Shk having to play on private servers and begging people to play him while banned, or people caring that much if he plays on private servers.
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Leriq i will go with people caring so much.
and myers who gave you those warnings? those warnings cannot be made until a rule has been made for them with Jitspoes approval.
it does not matter if they are active or anything. i consider it private property. the goverment can't issue public drunkness tickets if it is on private property. i would say like gtfo. and i am saying it now.
you realize jitspoe made the game with that loop hole for private servers for a reason.
the banned player/players tends to be my friend/s*
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Reminds me of the thread i made about homingbullet playing on that same private server and haxxin. The reason uR owns a private server and tries to lure people to match on it is because .... about half their clan is banned.
From yesterday:
shk: the only way we would 3v3 is in this priv serv i have
shk: its a friends so if your clan is cool, then i'll giv eit to ya
JiGSaW: I just don't feel like getting wallhacked on a non serverside server
shk: nobodies gonna hack
shk: im using a 3$ mouse anyway, lost my g9
shk: :)
shk: aight lemme know if you guys want it, just give me a shout
From a couple days ago:
<@gwb> [08:06pm] [N] Query Started with: shk!shockwave@CPE00096baff24c-CM001947931b92.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
<@gwb> [08:06pm] <shk> 3s
<@gwb> [08:06pm] <gwb> haha
<@gwb> [08:06pm] <gwb> you;re banned
<@gwb> [08:07pm] <shk> private serv:)
<@gwb> [08:07pm] <shk> exact same as a uR match server
<@gwb> [08:07pm] <gwb> i doubt my guys will say yes
<@gwb> [08:07pm] <gwb> but i will ask on your behalf
<@gwb> [08:08pm] <gwb> i regret to inform you, no one wants to match you untill you are unbanned
<@gwb> [08:08pm] <shk> tell them
<@gwb> [08:09pm] <shk> im using a goodwill lazer mouse, cost me $3, its breaking in my hands
<@gwb> [08:09pm] <shk> lost my g9, i was drunk forgot where i put it
*cough*sad*cough*
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what is sad dystro is you making that poor attempt at saying homie was hacking. everyone saw the demo and clearly stated that he was not hacking. this thread is for more mature folks dystro go play in your sandbox.
and uR didn't make the servers i did.
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what is sad dystro is you making that poor attempt at saying homie was hacking. everyone saw the demo and clearly stated that he was not hacking. this thread is for more mature folks dystro go play in your sandbox.
and uR didn't make the servers i did.
If he is playing in the sandbox you need to go finger paint.
Honestly, who cares what shockwave does in his own little private server.
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hey check it out guys, every thread there is someone accusing a uR player of doing anything, whos the first to be up on there posting madly nonstop.... vlad!!! Done posting on this thread, peace. besides it was more than obvious vlad, homingbullet is rly rly rly bad.
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dystro please ; your making me laugh now. Homie is a lot better that 95% of the community or at least he was back when i was active. your childish attempts at making him look bad are pathetic and amusing at the same time.
about shockwave's recent ban i didn't say excrement against it because i knew he deserved it. i approve of bans being given to hackers or mult-accounts.
i only support this thread because it is my private server and the only reason i have it up is because i think there is nothing wrong with it. and when you are accusing him of evading your going against my view point and i am defending that.
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I think it is sad that shk has to continue to play while he's banned. It should be considered evading since it's almost as if he's not banned at all. I guess nothing will happen so clans should just refuse to match uR.
Does anyone know who this leriq noob is that's backing up vlad?
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I think it is sad that shk has to continue to play while he's banned. It should be considered evading since it's almost as if he's not banned at all. I guess nothing will happen so clans should just refuse to match uR.
Does anyone know who this leriq noob is that's backing up vlad?
Lmfao, That made my day. Shk Isn't even in uR. And it probably wouldn't matter if anyone matched us, simply because were Inactive at the moment. And whoever Leriq is, is my baby.
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you realize jitspoe made the game with that loop hole for private servers for a reason.
loop·hole [loop-hohl]
–noun
1.
a small or narrow opening, as in a wall, for looking through, for admitting light and air, or, particularly in a fortification,for the discharge of missiles against an enemy outside.
2.
an opening or aperture.
3.
a means of escape or evasion; a means or opportunity of evading a rule, law, etc.: There are a number of loopholes in the tax laws whereby corporations can save money.
I'm not sure what logic you used to come to the conclusion that I intentionally created a means of evading global bans.
I guess the most straightforward way to deal with this is to enable global ban checks on private servers.
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I'm not sure what logic you used to come to the conclusion that I intentionally created a means of evading global bans.
I guess the most straightforward way to deal with this is to enable global ban checks on private servers.
A very reluctant +1 for me. I was against the regulation of private servers until about 10 minutes ago when we were flat out lied to to try and get us to play on a private server. If you ask someone to play on a private server thats one thing. However the level of deception that Deltaranger went through to try and get us to match on a private with a banned player has made me change my position.
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See Henrod, and there's no other reasons for private servers not to be checked anyways :P
And leave it to Henrod to change his mind ONLY when something happens personally to him!!! GOOD GOING HENROD!
I've kept the same opinion about them all along. VOTE FOR JUSU!
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you see jitspoe to force global login would require a different build i assume, ill keep the same. since you are on that time of month. until now it was fine and now you change your mind like a pregnant woman.
evading bans = you cannot play on global login servers. all games have that feature and it proved to be a good one. you will change it and the game will sink. but its your game if you wan't it to die just kill it instead of torturing it slowly to death.
i am not defending the players that play there i am defending the the right of using private servers to your own desire.
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i am not defending the players that play there i am defending the the right of using private servers to your own desire.
I feel sorry for shk and the 'private' servers. With you defending them, they're bound to lose :/
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I feel that playing on private servers (no GBL) should not be counted as evading.
But I also feel that no one should play on private servers.
All in all: If shk wants to play, let him play, but let him play only against vlad.
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you see jitspoe to force global login would require a different build i assume, ill keep the same. since you are on that time of month. until now it was fine and now you change your mind like a pregnant woman.
Yeah see now thats just meddling inappropriate. Honestly. That is NOT the attitude this game needs. And how will it die? Only the idiots that hack in the first place will leave because they won't have anywhere to turn to.
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Lol this is private server the opposent have to said no if they wont where is the problem ;]
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A very reluctant +1 for me. I was against the regulation of private servers until about 10 minutes ago when we were flat out lied to to try and get us to play on a private server. If you ask someone to play on a private server thats one thing. However the level of deception that Deltaranger went through to try and get us to match on a private with a banned player has made me change my position.
+1
I go with Henrod since Henrod is the man.
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+1
I go with Henrod since Henrod is the man.
This guy needs to get on the Committee pronto.
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hes good
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You should just change the topic to "We dont want shockwave playing anymore". I haven't begged anybody for matches like 3iob made it look like, we all know the real reason for all this drama. As for Deltaranger lying to s2k, I told him to tell them its a private server, and I would be playing...I completely understand why you would be pissed off. I just dont understand the point of it all, its a private server...Vlad pays for it, the committee doesn't, that should just end this whole discussion. If Vlad doesn't want people using it, thats his decision not s2k, not 3iob, not the committee... but his. Maybe if everybody paid to play this game, this argument would be worth the time.
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You should just change the topic to "We dont want shockwave playing anymore". I haven't begged anybody for matches like 3iob made it look like, we all know the real reason for all this drama. As for Deltaranger lying to s2k, I told him to tell them its a private server, and I would be playing...I completely understand why you would be pissed off. I just dont understand the point of it all, its a private server...Vlad pays for it, the committee doesn't, that should just end this whole discussion. If Vlad doesn't want people using it, thats his decision not s2k, not 3iob, not the committee... but his. Maybe if everybody paid to play this game, this argument would be worth the time.
Its actually not Vlads decision at all, he doesn't own the game. This actually has nothing to do with you at this point Shockwave. It has to do with people lying to get matches on private servers. Now its obvious that players can't handle it maturely. If banned players and thier clans can't handle asking people to play on a private and have to lie to them, then its contradicting the point of the ban in both letter and spirit. I'm also fairly certain that forcing private servers to require login would not require a full build upgrade either Vlad.
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It has to do with people lying to get matches on private servers. Now its obvious that players can't handle it maturely.
Talk to deltaranger about that, cause I haven't lied about myself playing in the private server, you can kinda tell if its me or not anyway
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Talk to deltaranger about that, cause I haven't lied about myself playing in the private server, you can kinda tell if its me or not anyway
This actually has nothing to do with you at this point Shockwave. It has to do with people lying to get matches on private servers. Now its obvious that players can't handle it maturely. If banned players and thier clans can't handle asking people to play on a private and have to lie to them, then its contradicting the point of the ban in both letter and spirit.
Don't see how I can explain it differently. Its not about one incedent or one person anymore, its about policy. Asking clans if they will 3v3 on a private server is mostly harmless. Going through an elaborate ruse to get a team to play a banned player without thier knowlege runs more along the lines of ban evasion. Now that its gotten to this point of abuse, someone has to make a ruling on it.
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Guy got ban and topic is bigger and bigger, lmao you will play soon. Dont worry be happy rofl
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i guess ill have to moderate how people abuse my servers. let delta ranger know that if he won't let others know that it is a private server i won't be letting him on.
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i guess ill have to moderate how people abuse my servers. let delta ranger know that if he won't let others know that it is a private server i won't be letting him on.
Probably a good policy either way. Hopefully we get a ruling soon so people aren't damaging the integrity of your servers.
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I'm at school.