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Title: New Map: Garden's Tale ||Final Release!
Post by: _burnt on April 14, 2009, 11:28:40 AM

Final Release

http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/map/garden/ (http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/map/garden/)

Hi! This is the 5th map which i have made, but this one i made with Spartax. It's 2 flag CTF with multiple routes.

There are 2 kind of spawns: 1.carbine, large empty and loaded co2, full 100 hopper, chrome barrel. 2. spyder, large empty and loaded co2, full 200 hopper, chrome barrel.

You have granted with 4 autocockers, 2 in pretty open place( with these, there are 200 hoppers), 2 somehow hidden autococker, go and find 'em! 3 steel barrels are in the mid area.

Sun is screwed up, already knew that.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: ip0d on April 14, 2009, 11:40:36 AM

all of yr maps are amazing =p

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on April 14, 2009, 11:50:09 AM

Thanks Spartax too =) He made alot from the map.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: RiMiNi on April 14, 2009, 01:47:54 PM

Things to fix

Little Crack.. misaligned brush?
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2v31v76.jpg)

I think the sloped brush should line up with the front of the house
(http://i44.tinypic.com/672hya.jpg)

Misaligned
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2b8600.jpg)

Misaligned
(http://i41.tinypic.com/156bkp0.jpg)

The supports seem a little skinny..
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2n00876.jpg)

Grass Texture? might be part of the misaligned wall from above?
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2q35c87.jpg)

Whats with the blocks of wood?
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2nkib68.jpg)

Also the base to mid to base speed jump seems a little easy, and is much quicker than everything else, although im sure it will get the feces lined out of it.

And you can hit your head on the ceiling when doing the speed jump.

Also what is the point of the smoke in the tunnel? I dont get where its coming from..

Also the lighting is boring, it barely seems like there is any.. try to make it more.. dramatic

Other than that, good work! :)

EDIT: i found another misaligned brush. Going from the base to the mid (speed way) you will see along the wall a misaligned brush on the left side

Also i realized what all the smoke is from, a fire, which is not visible since there is too much smoke..

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: RoBiNandL!nk on April 14, 2009, 03:42:46 PM

i would stop spamming maps out of no where and finish your maps completely and master then so they're to their fullest

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: KI3S on April 14, 2009, 05:35:52 PM

I'm always impressed with your maps and many of them seem like they could be great for gameplay (except the forgotten caverns :) ) Couldn't really find much else wrong with it that wasn't pointed out by Rimini but I found one :P


(http://i40.tinypic.com/108fjno.jpg)




In the second screenshot I was showing the flags. Maybe its just me but I don't like how the yellow flag has red in it and the red flag has yellow in it. It makes it a little confusing.


(http://i39.tinypic.com/2jalttc.jpg)

Edit: Flag one doesn't have the other teams color in it but I still don't like the 2nd flag :)

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: RiMiNi on April 14, 2009, 06:13:52 PM

I think that looks neat Ki3s :) and you should download the CTP textures :D

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: Fuzz Ball on April 14, 2009, 08:22:18 PM

Nice map but yes, the lighting seems boring. Try playing around with the sun settings again. ;D

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on April 14, 2009, 10:54:38 PM

Do you think there's too much smoke in the cave? It's easy to get away of some. When i made fastvis rad the smoke was really thin, and when i made the final compile it came little too thick. But thanks for pointing those out, and those wood blocks i'll change to hay i think. But about the lightning, i don't know what i'm doing wrong!! I tried to fix those settings for 3 hours one day and other 2 hours in other day. I can post my sun settings here, if you wan't look at them.

BTW, i wouldn't have done this map if Spartax wouldn't had asked to me.

Oh and RiMiNi, your 5th pic wont load up on me :(

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: KI3S on April 14, 2009, 11:07:35 PM

Seemed like a ton of smoke for me. Rimini's 5th screenshot was of this :)

Which I agree look a little thin.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2rzph88.jpg)


And I noticed this too. Got stuck here a couple times in between the box and the wall.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/1zd19op.jpg)

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: Bix on April 14, 2009, 11:44:39 PM

You could remove some clutter, hard to get any speed or rhythm before you just run into something

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: Fuzz Ball on April 14, 2009, 11:49:03 PM

I don't know anything about lighting settings... when Jitspoe sees this then he can probably give the advice. :)

Quote from: KI3S on April 14, 2009, 11:07:35 PM

Rimini's 5th screenshot was of this :)

Which I agree look a little thin.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2rzph88.jpg)

Yeah that's really thin. It looks thin enough for a player to be able to ram it and it would fall. ;D

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: anson on April 15, 2009, 06:13:33 AM

Yeah that's really thin. It looks thin enough for a player to be able to ram it and it would fall.
ye.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on April 15, 2009, 09:21:56 AM

Please not in my thread :( Soon you will be arguing was he trying to rack his post count up or not. But on topic, personally don't think that they are too thin, cause that's just a shelter. It souldn't need mouch to support and it could be attached too the rock. But i'll change it if you want so...

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: Bix on April 15, 2009, 11:00:53 AM

I personally think correct gameplay needs to come before looks. From hopping around on this map it is nearly impossible to get speed as the map is constantly turning with multiple obstacles in the way.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on April 15, 2009, 11:12:47 AM

Of course gameplay comes first, no one has said anything else. But i'm sorry that i didn't notice your post. My attention went to Fuzz Ball's post. And KI3S, you'r second pic wont load. But do you mean that small box, above is a window?

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: Bix on April 15, 2009, 12:58:37 PM

Maybe smooth SOME parts out and remove SOME boxes etc to make the map flow more.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on April 15, 2009, 01:00:31 PM

What do you mean by smooth? If you mean making ground flat, that's something i hate.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: KI3S on April 15, 2009, 01:31:47 PM

Quote from: JeeJee on April 15, 2009, 11:12:47 AM

And KI3S, you'r second pic wont load.

Second picture of which post? And I agree with Bix it did seem kinda too many obstacles. I don't think he means making the ground flat he means takes some things out that are unneccessary and would help make speed alot easier so you didn't keep hitting things.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on April 15, 2009, 01:40:34 PM

Oh, nothing anymore, it loaded. Just took rest of the evening... I understood the part taking obstacles of and i agree, but he said "Smooth out", so i thought that he meant making ground flat. But nothing more about that. Speed jump needs some fixing too, so it's not like the primary way used like in Shazam series, so if you have any ideas tell me.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on April 20, 2009, 10:35:35 AM

Beta 2 is ready...

http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/archive/garden_b2.bsp (http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/archive/garden_b2.bsp)

EDIT:I may have discovered my sun problem. My _sun_angle wont work properly (atleast in this map). I had to aim it with the etities. Also, can i use decimals in the _sun_angle? I've used them so that may cause my problems... Have to test it.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: abnormal on April 20, 2009, 11:31:24 PM

Saw it in match.. Doesn't look bad ;).

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: Spartax on April 21, 2009, 09:29:23 AM

Thanks =P <3

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: jitspoe on April 30, 2009, 10:02:46 PM

Attached a demo and uploaded to the beta server.

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: SuMMit! on May 07, 2009, 12:04:02 AM

This is a good map i Like some of the jumps :D
good job

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on May 24, 2009, 03:41:19 AM

http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/archive/garden_b3.bsp (http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/archive/garden_b3.bsp)

Beta 3, pretty much changed what Jitspoe said in his demo. Something i may have forgotten. Plants need to be added, smaller barrels and took 2nd flags off. Also 1 side is missing a critical box, due to my great memory i haven't placed it...

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: Spartax on May 24, 2009, 05:46:51 AM

hmmm .... It isnt finish , we should start work on it .. i dotn rly like it =/

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: blaa on June 01, 2009, 09:19:40 AM

1. Way too much smoke in tunnel to flag. Doesnt feel like it adds anything to the look of the map nor to the gameplay.
2. Make it possible to jump from boxes to flag. (when you are sitting on flag and looking towards mid, the route what comes from left - those boxes)
3. Maybe its too emotional but yesterday my clan matched eX on a map i had previously seen on pubs. Good map, but the thing was, that you had to cap somewhere else than where the flag is. Dunno, on that specific map (escape) it was confusing. Why there? Whats the point behind that? On garden its not so much of a issue imo, but could use some thinking. Why? Is there really a point? What kind of situations it would create and what kind of situations it would avoid?

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on June 26, 2009, 09:00:14 AM

B4 is ready and i will make it final, if there isn't any major problems. I'll give it a week like before.

http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/archive/garden_b4.bsp (http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/archive/garden_b4.bsp)

Title: Re: New Map: Garden's Tale
Post by: _burnt on July 02, 2009, 08:47:07 AM

So week is up, and i'm releasing the fianl version.

http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/map/garden/ (http://maps.digitalpaint.therisenrealm.com/map/garden/)

Have good times playing it :P