Digital Paint Discussion Board
Fairness Enforcement => Cheater Reports and Bans => Topic started by: jitspoe on March 03, 2009, 11:50:21 AM
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I've decided to make a slight change in the way ban times work for cheaters. This has been done in the past with a few select people, but I might as well make it standard. You must be willing to provide some or all of the following:
- Demos of matches in question.
- All of the cheats you've used (don't send these to anybody but me, obviously, or put them on public download sites - cheat distribution has a stiff penalty)
- Any other files requested (textures, etc.)
- Who/where you got the cheats from.
Failure to do so will result in a doubled ban time (currently, a first time offense will result in a 64 day ban unless the info requested is provided). As always, ban times are subject to change. Also, don't lie. I log a lot of information and can usually verify the information given.
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Was this shall i say "put into effect" because of what KIES posted in increasing ban time?
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Sounds good to me. Time to bring down everyone associated with cheats/distribution.
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Finally....
/me is happier now.
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The increased ban time for not giving your source of cheats should definitely help.
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- Who/where you got the cheats from.
If people actually were required to share who/where they got their hacks from, I believe it would tremendously help. Hip Hip Hurray to Jits :]]]
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I have a question. What is going to be the point of reporting people after we lay down the modified map list...Detection will pick up everything (but ratbots? I think this is actually detectable). Therefore it is pointless to report people. We have already seen that ratbots are not viable in most cases.
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I've decided to make a slight change in the way ban times work for cheaters.
Horray!
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I have a question. What is going to be the point of reporting people after we lay down the modified map list...Detection will pick up everything (but ratbots? I think this is actually detectable). Therefore it is pointless to report people. We have already seen that ratbots are not viable in most cases.
I remember some Quake2 mods had ratbot protection. I wasn't involved much with servers and such back then so I have no idea how it was deployed on the server.
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I have a question. What is going to be the point of reporting people after we lay down the modified map list...Detection will pick up everything (but ratbots? I think this is actually detectable). Therefore it is pointless to report people. We have already seen that ratbots are not viable in most cases.
Currently that may be the case, but since new variants could always come around forcing folks to give the cheat over could help with future detection or help Jits see the trends in how developers are trying to modify the hacks in the hopes it will be undetectable, etc.
And the ratbot example is a good one for forcing demos.
By the way, you mention the modified map list, which I assume is a list of cheaters who have been detected using modified maps. Is there actually such a list confirmed by Jits or the committee, or is this an assumption based on the fact that Cuso was caught?
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you can always look at it this way. You will get a 64 day ban. If you come clean and give us the info before you are caught, the time will be cut in half to 32. This of course is to all of the modified map hackers, since your time is limited, come out now or be prepared :X
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you can always look at it this way. You will get a 64 day ban. If you come clean and give us the info before you are caught, the time will be cut in half to 32. This of course is to all of the modified map hackers, since your time is limited, come out now or be prepared :X
That is at least one committee member who believes in the list.
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That is at least one committee member who believes in the list.
I do :).
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Was this shall i say "put into effect" because of what KIES posted in increasing ban time?
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yes make ban time more so they might not want to hack
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I have a question. What is going to be the point of reporting people after we lay down the modified map list...Detection will pick up everything (but ratbots? I think this is actually detectable). Therefore it is pointless to report people. We have already seen that ratbots are not viable in most cases.
This will enable the comitte to find and bring down distributers of hacks even faster. If this sounds like a bad idea to you then there is something wrong with you.
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All who cheat, can he get automatic ban?
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ratbot is detectable
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yes make ban time more so they might not want to hack
He already has
All who cheat, can he get automatic ban?
firstly, it could be a she ;) and secondly, yes.
I think it's brilliant that people are getting punished properly for cheats! I'm presuming this doesn't apply to multi-accounts as some people just simply are n00bs and will just ignore the rules/forget them.
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I'm presuming this doesn't apply to multi-accounts as some people just simply are n00bs and will just ignore the rules/forget them.
It doesn't
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I believe that you should be banned for life unless you give up your source. Maybe that would be a motivator.
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If that happen that would shut this game down by far more people hack in this game then in any other game, And most the people don't give it up they keep it and just wait out the ban and hack like (Snox)
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If that happen that would shut this game down by far more people hack in this game then in any other game, And most the people don't give it up they keep it and just wait out the ban and hack like (Snox)
Then we don't need hackers in this game. It would motivate others to stop what they are doing before they get that stiff ban. It would stop that little thought in their head about doing it.
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hmmm, maybe an exceptionally long ban, but not lifetime. I mean, what if you want to come back to the game in a year's time? You might hack for the last day of playing, then give up paintball2, then decide a year later that it wasn't all that bad and want to play fairly, but can't because you've been banned for life.
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Ban them for a long time.
Then if they come back and play without hacks, let them continue.
If they hack again, permanent ban for life NO EXCEPTIONS OR EXEMPTIONS.
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if the people who are big time hackers of this game and are on it 24/7 and get banned for life, they would just fine another ip source or a different computer.
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Well i gave the info... and nothing happened so i think it is a bunch of nothing.
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Well i gave the info... and nothing happened so i think it is a bunch of nothing.
Ever give a man some time? When did you give it to him?
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i gave him the hacks.. the walls and the aimbot
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Did you tell him where you got them from/who gave them to you?
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what is this modified map list?
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Its wallhacking.
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how long does a person have after the initial posting to come forward, or is it indefinite? seems reasonable that they would have to talk fast to take advantage of such a "gift".
along the same lines, after what period can it be posted in this section to show what type of offense they were banned for? always helpful to know what the person is prone to improving quick and dirty to be watchful in the future.
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I've got an idea to help out. Say someone gets banned, so their ban is doubled. Why don't we change the rule that if they give all of the required information, the banned will be halved *from how many days they have left banned* (instead of just taking away the doubled time)
That way, it will give banned people the incentive to release info earlier, instead of making us wait.
Ex. Doubled ban = 64 days 14 days go by = 50 days left person gives info to half ban = 25 days left.
It would then be in their best interest to give us the info straight up, instead of letting the thread fade away and having to bring it back up whenever they decide to give info.
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an easy yes
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That would require me getting things done in a timely manner. :) It's difficult enough getting things handled within 32 days.
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I've decided to make a slight change in the way ban times work for cheaters. This has been done in the past with a few select people, but I might as well make it standard. You must be willing to provide some or all of the following:
- Demos of matches in question.
- All of the cheats you've used (don't send these to anybody but me, obviously, or put them on public download sites - cheat distribution has a stiff penalty)
- Any other files requested (textures, etc.)
- Who/where you got the cheats from.
Failure to do so will result in a doubled ban time (currently, a first time offense will result in a 64 day ban unless the info requested is provided). As always, ban times are subject to change. Also, don't lie. I log a lot of information and can usually verify the information given.
ratbot is detectable
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Great!
can I sic you on anyone? lol
ok my question: how do you take a video or demo of the match/game?
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Great!
can I sic you on anyone? lol
ok my question: how do you take a video or demo of the match/game?
On match severs demos are automatically recorded, but in public severs you need to type 'record demonamehere' into the console
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Ok thanks
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one question. how do you know if they gave you all there cheats? it just kinda confused me. who is going to give you all there cheats?
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one question. how do you know if they gave you all there cheats? it just kinda confused me. who is going to give you all there cheats?
I don't reduce people's bans unless they give me info all the cheats that were detected. For example, if you were using a wallhack, an aimbot, and modded (ex: brightened) textures, I might have detected 1, 2 or all 3 of those cheats. If you were banned and didn't provide info on one of the cheats that was detected, you'd run the risk of not getting your ban reduced.