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Title: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: IronFist on November 12, 2008, 01:12:31 AM
L4D's demo came out today on Steam, with the game being released next Tuesday (18th). I was just curious if anyone else was trying it out (http://store.steampowered.com/app/530/).

I've played a lot of CSS Zombie Mod and Zombie Panic, so I wasn't sure if the demo would live up to expectations. It turned out to be quite good, especially as the difficulty level goes up (you'll lose many times with difficulty set to "expert", but it makes for the most intense and scary gameplay).

I was able to turn all settings to high (I left AA off), and my 6800 ultra chugged right away at it. I guess their decision to use Source paid off for compatibility. My only complaint is L4D feels too tailored to the xbox. It makes matchmaking really easy, but finding detailed server information pretty difficult.

$45-50 is a lot to pay, though. I may wait until it drops a bit (and especially when I have more time to accidentally get addicted to it).
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 12, 2008, 01:38:08 AM
I'm desperately trying to download it at 20kb/s. Apparently Valve didn't prepare too well for the download rush. :(
I'm not sure how much content is in the game, so I'm a little hesitant to get it right as it comes out, before the mapping community has started up. It looks fantastic, though.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Cameron on November 12, 2008, 04:21:17 AM
Thats something to download overnight.  2GB of a demo, wowzorz.  And I'm getting it a 800kb/s :D.  AND WHY IS EVERY GAME GETTING RELEASED WHEN IM ON CAMP IN CANBERRA??
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on November 12, 2008, 10:18:49 AM
Holy crap.  This game is awesome!!

I was playing it this morning (2am) with a few people from school.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 12, 2008, 10:20:42 AM
Oh my god it is awesome.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: sk89q on November 12, 2008, 10:28:34 AM
I just downloaded it over last night. Can't wait to try it out!
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Cameron on November 12, 2008, 01:40:55 PM
I forgot to leave my computer on :(.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Paint-Magnet on November 12, 2008, 05:54:17 PM
i got it for 360 this is a badass game
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Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: eMo on November 12, 2008, 11:14:51 PM
Played the demo today at my friends house for x360.. Such a good demo!

Although, I do hate being at the back of the pack and getting strangled and dragged back while my team just runs ahead blasting...
I think the co-op online would get frustrating because everyone just wants the most kills and really don't care about the team.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on November 13, 2008, 12:02:37 AM
Thats cuz your playing on a console.  Haha.  And I just beat Expert tonight.



.... Twice.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: sk89q on November 13, 2008, 12:05:34 AM
Amazing game! I wish there were difficulty levels above expert though. Anything below that is just plain boooring.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on November 13, 2008, 12:10:18 AM
Amazing game! I wish there were difficulty levels above expert though. Anything below that is just plain boooring.

So I've heard.  Haven't played anything but expert though.  Haha.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 13, 2008, 12:33:13 AM
Needs sk89q/Zorch/Pink/Eiii party.

EDIT: To make this post worthwhile, the one thing that I don't really like are the clear musical cues, for, say, what I've lovingly dubbed a 'Horn rush'. I'd love it if the music kicked in just as they attacked, or about half a second before, but as it is now you have a good three or four seconds to get in position so that you can easily defend against the impending swarm. I know you can turn the music off, but I like the music. I don't like the warning. :\
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on November 13, 2008, 01:35:11 AM
Haha.

I just went through easy mode in a half hour.  Only using the single pistol.  And never using a med pack or any pills.  sk89q was right.  :P

Needs sk89q/Zorch/Pink/Eiii party.

:D
What's your Seam IDs?

Edit:  Actually, I only need Pink's.  Everyone else's SNs are unique.  Haha.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 13, 2008, 02:20:58 AM
Heh, Eiii turns up a bunch of results for me, but I guess I'm pretty easy to find in that list. :3
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on November 13, 2008, 12:47:14 PM
Whoa, I just realized that your avatar is animated.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: ViciouZ on November 13, 2008, 01:34:23 PM
I really like Killing Floor, so I got pretty annoyed about all the hype surrounding this, but I decided to bury the hatchet and try it. It's FAKKING ORRSOME. Even though the boomers are a bit too exactly-the-same-as-Bloats-from-Killing-Floor for my tastes. :D:D
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 13, 2008, 03:12:23 PM
The boomers are way too weak for my tastes. I'd like for them to actually be a threat, rather than a 'one-hit-and-they're-down' thing. At worst, they sneak up on you, give you zombie AIDS, and then 30-50 zombies come running at you. I've never had it be a threat, at any level of play.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Spook on November 13, 2008, 03:16:14 PM
I thought it was fun, getting zombie raped has been one of my fantasies for awhile now.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: sk89q on November 14, 2008, 12:37:07 AM
I was just playing with Eiii. Got raped on the second level every single time. We had the luck of having a tank every game.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 14, 2008, 12:46:02 AM
:<
Also! While playing with Zorch, he dropped. This made the server-goers sad. Then, to replace him, Ironfist pops in! Apparently unintentionally, according to him. :D

Fun times.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on November 14, 2008, 10:50:51 AM
I think I figured out why I was disconnected.  I forgot to turn off my torrents.  :P
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: eradicator on November 14, 2008, 04:01:45 PM
I can't get the demo because my darn 360 got the E74 error the other day. >:(
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on November 14, 2008, 04:38:32 PM
PC?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on November 16, 2008, 04:28:39 PM
Tee-Hee (http://fanboy-forum.com/index.php?topic=3251.msg385219#msg385219)
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: eradicator on November 17, 2008, 04:41:13 PM
PC?

My computer can't handle a game like that, I need a better graphics card.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 17, 2008, 06:08:24 PM
I would not get the game if there was no chance of new maps, mods, etc. Consoles take the community out of gaming, which probably one of the worst things you could do to games, as a whole.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: ViciouZ on November 18, 2008, 09:14:40 AM
I would be playing the full game right now if I didn't have to write a 5000 word essay about Stalin :-(
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 18, 2008, 11:00:49 AM
Just write 'He's awesome' 2500 times.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: eradicator on November 18, 2008, 02:38:12 PM
I love Dictators!
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: jitspoe on November 18, 2008, 03:04:54 PM
Hm, it's like they made a half-life 2 zombie mod and dumbed it down to the console level.  What's with this lobby crap?  Whatever happened to the good old fashioned server list?  It's kind of fun, but I question the replay value.  $50 seems like a lot to pay for what it is.  Sucks that you have to use steam to play it, too.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: IronFist on November 18, 2008, 04:35:54 PM
Hm, it's like they made a half-life 2 zombie mod and dumbed it down to the console level.  What's with this lobby crap?  Whatever happened to the good old fashioned server list?  It's kind of fun, but I question the replay value.  $50 seems like a lot to pay for what it is.  Sucks that you have to use steam to play it, too.

Yep, I ultimately decided not to buy it just because it has too much of a console feel to it (i.e. it's a bit too simplified and arcade-ish). Despite hype over it being a dynamic gameplay experience ("Director AI"), the levels themselves are still very linear, and the little music scores start to take the fun out of unexpected attacks. It's a solid game, but it's not quite as groundbreaking as they'd like to make it out to be. I'm perpetually poor, so $50 isn't worth it for me.

I remain a big fan of CSS Zombie Mod. There are a few servers which generally have 50+ people (not bots) playing, which provides just as much of a zombie horde as L4D can provide. The game mechanics are definitely different, but since it's based on CSS, you get all the cool guns and stuff. You can even set up makeshift barricades with vending machines, etc.

Zombie Panic for HL2 is also really good. Ammunition is a precious resource, there's typically lots of teamwork to spread it around well, and it's darn scary to be hauling your greedy butt to the agreed-upon camping spot with your rifle, shotgun, and 3 pistols while you move at a snail's pace (more ammo/weapons = slower speed in ZP).

Anyway, I was hoping for L4D to be a bit less repetitive.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 18, 2008, 05:37:27 PM
I'd disagree with you on L4D being repetitive, to be honest. It's a zombie killing game. If you can't stand killing zombies the same way more than once or twice, it's probably not going to be the game for you. I know it's a personal preference, but I was able to put 10 hours into what amounts to (probably significantly) less than 1/10th of the game-- and that's without versus and such. This game will thrive if the level design is good, and given Valve's track record in that area (throwing out HL2. Bleh.), I don't think it's something to worry about. Plus, being on the PC gives you the modding community. Versus will only increase the replay value, hopefully by a significant margin.

I agree with you entirely on the musical queues, though. I'm not sure the game would be possible without them, but then that's indicative of poor gameplay design, so.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: sk89q on November 19, 2008, 05:27:39 PM
I'm waiting for the game to finish downloading. Someone gifted a copy to me. :D
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on November 19, 2008, 05:35:53 PM
:(
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: jitspoe on November 19, 2008, 06:19:57 PM
Talked to somebody at work who got it - he said it was fun, but not worth $50.  There aren't any new monsters -- just a bunch more levels to go through.  I'd get it if it were $20, but they're asking too much.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: y00tz on November 19, 2008, 10:11:39 PM
IronFist, have you tried "Zombie Master"?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 19, 2008, 10:29:04 PM
I played zombie master, and was pretty much instantly repulsed by it. The standard there doesn't seem to be high-quality maps. More so really, really, REALLY awful maps. Seriously, one I played on was just 'know where the things fall that kill you', another was 'move from room to room and shoot at zombies that slowly float at you with near-infinite ammo', where rooms were literally just chunks of brush suspended in the skybox, and the third must have been built by a second grader who LOVED neon colors.
If it had good maps? Maybe. I don't think *slow* zombies would work to well in an actual objective-based game (which it is), though. If the zombies can't get to you, then they just become a slowmoving area-denial tool. Actually, that could be an interesting mechanic if done correctly, but more likely than not it wouldn't be the kind of game I'd want to play.

All in all, the problem I've witnessed there is level design. I'm sure good levels exist, but I haven't seen them.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Spook on November 19, 2008, 10:47:39 PM
Call of duty 5, Nazi zombie. So much fun.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: IronFist on November 19, 2008, 11:53:19 PM
IronFist, have you tried "Zombie Master"?

Nope, but I will try it out this weekend. I've seen it mentioned on PlanetHalfLife a few times, but it always looked a little weird.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on November 20, 2008, 12:59:26 AM
Call of duty 5, Nazi zombie. So much fun.
Yeah, I need to check that out, but I really don't think the multiplayer in that game'll be any good...
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Spook on November 20, 2008, 03:08:06 PM
Yeah, I need to check that out, but I really don't think the multiplayer in that game'll be any good...
Me and my 3 buddies were playing yesterday, it was so much fun. We actually ended up having to bunker ourselves in one room because there were too many zombies to shoot. We ended up covering for each other each time we needed to reload and we all ended up with over 600 kills each. Imagine that in a half hour game.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: xiangliang2 on January 02, 2009, 06:29:15 PM
Try Resident Evil THATS SOME SCARY CRAP YO! :o
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Post by: P!nk on February 16, 2009, 12:54:41 PM
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Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Cameron on February 16, 2009, 01:46:50 PM
What I find amazing is it is $100 in stores over here....  I'm still waiting for it to drop a lil bit.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: skitzo on February 16, 2009, 05:06:08 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/news/2234/

kind of old news but i'm excited for it.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on February 17, 2009, 12:59:38 AM
I can't wait for the two other campaigns in Versus.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Eiii on February 17, 2009, 02:44:08 AM
Just Death Toll here. Dead Air was pretty boring.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: kNoC on February 18, 2009, 02:58:34 AM
any got the full game ?
i bought it couple days ago when it was on sale for $25.

if so hit me up
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead (Demo)
Post by: Zorchenhimer on February 18, 2009, 11:58:05 AM
Find me on steam.  I'm usually up for a game.