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Development => Bugs, Feature Requests, and Feedback => Topic started by: battle on August 26, 2008, 12:46:44 AM

Title: Green team.
Post by: battle on August 26, 2008, 12:46:44 AM
GO GREEN!  :D
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Eiii on August 26, 2008, 12:52:39 AM
Green is the same color as grass. Grass is featured prominently in this game. How do you not see the issue with this?
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: battle on August 26, 2008, 12:56:24 AM
Oh i get it. But still it is a good color. =D
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: jitspoe on August 26, 2008, 09:09:45 AM
Green is also difficult to distinguish from yellow at times.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Byz on August 26, 2008, 01:15:42 PM
I prefer more white team.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: XtremeBain on August 26, 2008, 01:38:47 PM
Green fullbright skins.. gogogogogogogogogo
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: battle on August 26, 2008, 05:15:26 PM
If only I knew how to add a picture I found this one green that i think might work.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: nightryder on August 29, 2008, 01:19:55 AM
black team
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: y00tz on August 29, 2008, 07:00:42 AM
Green is also difficult to distinguish from yellow at times.

That's not dark yellow, I'd call it green.         </joke>
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: KnacK on August 29, 2008, 08:13:47 AM
no, that's closer to baby poop.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: RiMiNi on August 29, 2008, 02:36:59 PM
i say hot pink vs. neon green? HOOS WIF ME?
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: flamer on August 29, 2008, 05:10:43 PM
idc about all colors except that poor purple team..

Should be : -Blue team
                - Red team
                - Yellow Team
                - Black Team
                - White team

-Flamer
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Eiii on August 29, 2008, 05:14:11 PM
Black is the same color as dark parts of any given map. Yellow in really bright places may be confused with white.

:3
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: flamer on August 29, 2008, 05:40:53 PM
hum..

There are already yellow teams.. I just accept them :3

-FlameR
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Eiii on August 29, 2008, 06:58:00 PM
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of that color. :\ It's more of a map issue, really. Far too many people with really crappy monitors are playing this game...
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: flamer on August 30, 2008, 08:20:33 AM
lol +1

-Flamer
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: dnadna on September 02, 2008, 06:14:07 AM
well green is a good colour BUT its harder to see when their on grass
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: ip0d on September 02, 2008, 03:36:58 PM
how bout a camo team
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: RiMiNi on September 02, 2008, 06:59:08 PM
that would be harder to see than grass..
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: delrio on September 03, 2008, 08:07:06 AM
Black is the same color as dark parts of any given map. Yellow in really bright places may be confused with white.

:3

Blue seems to blend in with those parts of the maps, too, though... :-\
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: nub on September 03, 2008, 08:24:05 AM
orange.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: RoBiNandL!nk on September 03, 2008, 03:10:38 PM
orange or pink maybe a brown (dark brown.. most woods are light)
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Laged on September 03, 2008, 03:15:26 PM
Just be happy with the teams we have.
They're good, we don't need more teams.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: RoBiNandL!nk on September 03, 2008, 03:49:59 PM
true we wouldn't want Color War I :-)
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Kaos on March 18, 2009, 01:52:29 PM
Just be happy with the teams we have.
They're good, we don't need more teams.


Thats not the point of this thread the problem is that there are color blind players in this game. Jus to name a couple bix,and haze.
If there was to be a green team I'm sure they wouldn't have 5 teams but a team like yellow would be replaced with a different in this case green.

The only problem i have with this is how much would it blend in with current textures.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: MissingNo. on March 24, 2009, 03:23:25 PM
If they do make a new team color it would have to be implemented into NEW maps, not old ones.  Unless they remade them.  If someone reamade ub_cliff or ub_4cliff with all teams it would be hard because when making the map it would be in the shape of a pentagon and everything would have to be angled perfectly.  And the teams are fine the way they are, adding a new team would only make it harder on people.  If a map used all teams it would only throw players off.  If there was only 20 people on a map like that then each team would get only 4 team members.

Kaos I understand that It would be nice to have different colors for colorblind people, but that might be a little... um... bad because if there was a new team most of the maps they would play wouldn't even have that team.  Maybe there should be a feature for palette change instead.

Ooh, I'm going to get started on that right now.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: KnacK on March 24, 2009, 04:00:19 PM
Unfortunately, not all men are created equal.  We all have our strengths and weaknesses.  Some people have better eyesight.  Some people have better reflexes.  Some people have better precision.  Some people are better at predicting enemy movement.  While it may be true that you have a clinical disability, there are many people with varying degrees of disabilities that impact their gaming ability which may or may not  be diagnosed.  Do I allow varying degrees of model discoloration depending on the severity of the disability?  See where I'm going here? The only way to make a game completely fair would be to throw a bunch of names in a hat and have it randomly select a winner, but what fun is that?

I have two key concerns here:
- What's best for the game and community as a whole?
- What's realistic?

I'm fairly certain the community as a whole wants a fair game.  Can I get a show of hands for those of you who want other players running around with modified models and textures so they can see better than you?  Ok, maybe there are a handful of, "I'm better than you even if you cheat, so bring it on." players, but I don't think that's really in the best interest of the community overall.

Now, what's realistic?  Reviewing each individual player's disabilities and weaknesses and creating alternative versions of the game and/or content to compensate for those handicaps is not really realistic.  Not only would it be a lot of work, but how am I to determine the relative visibility of a player model against a given texture for a color blind person vs. the stock models for players who aren't color blind?  Their alternative textures might be more visible even with their color blindness than the stock textures for other players.

The most fair and realistic solution I see right now is this: everybody uses the same models and textures.  If you have a disability, then you have a disability, and you're just going to have to learn how to play with it.  As b00nlander said, there are no green models, so you won't be mixing teams up.  They might be harder to see against grass textures, but the players don't have grass camo on, so you should be able to pick out the patterns of their jersey easily enough, and they'll probably be moving anyway.  I've played lots of games where players are actually designed to blend in with the environment -- games like BF2 and COD2 come to mind.  Even in classic Quake 2 deathmatch, everything was pretty much the same orange/yellow/brown color.  You just have to learn to discern pattern and movement instead of colors.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: sean123 on March 24, 2009, 04:05:54 PM
GREEN GREEN GREEN YES YES YES
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: MissingNo. on March 24, 2009, 05:26:56 PM
I wonder how they would be able to do that.....
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: [bd]imalamp on April 14, 2009, 11:39:26 AM
just make a green skin no one will know
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Justinph5 on April 14, 2009, 11:45:51 AM
a green team is unrealistic!
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: _burnt on April 14, 2009, 11:52:55 AM
And how hard is to understand that it will not work in DP, cause 90% of the maps in DP have grass? IMO if you want new colour atleast go for something better, not with this unreal and not-going-to-work green...
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: skitzo on April 14, 2009, 12:09:29 PM
IMO if you want new colour atleast go for something better, not with this unreal and not-going-to-work green...

Black
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: nub on April 14, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
orange.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: S8NSSON on April 14, 2009, 04:52:16 PM
What colors can these colored blind people not see?
I'm gonna make all my maps with those colors just for them!
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: MissingNo. on April 14, 2009, 07:00:26 PM
So nice!!!!  Too bad I don't have the time to do that, sorry. :(  But I don't know, just ask them.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Fuzz Ball on April 14, 2009, 08:16:56 PM
Black

Been brought up already. Can't remember where on the forum, but...

Black is the same color as dark parts of any given map.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: skitzo on April 15, 2009, 07:24:51 AM
teal then
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Fuzz Ball on April 15, 2009, 07:29:39 AM
teal then


Ok don't know that colour :)
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: _burnt on April 15, 2009, 09:25:36 AM
Lol, go for orange if you need new colors. My self i don't care if we get new color or not. I'm happy with the existing ones. Though another bright one could be useful to dark maps.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: jitspoe on April 15, 2009, 10:07:23 AM
So many maps have wood walls, though, that orange would probably blend in.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: _burnt on April 15, 2009, 10:29:36 AM
So many maps have wood walls, though, that orange would probably blend in.

Hmm, good point. So no new colors. I'll stick with it then.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: skitzo on April 15, 2009, 12:22:29 PM
(http://www.marathononline.com/images/teal.gif)

Teal
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: _burnt on April 15, 2009, 12:43:08 PM
It could work. (as far as Jitspoe comes and says that it blends somewhere :D) It's just lot of work (i think), and i don't care if we get new colors. The old ones are just fine.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Justinph5 on April 15, 2009, 12:55:27 PM
no, the color teal is unrealistic.

besides, if we ever got a new color, it would take less than a month till people started complaining that they wanted even more, and that they got bored with the new one.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: Fuzz Ball on April 15, 2009, 10:05:11 PM
We've gone through so many colours and arguments and disagreements for a new colour, and at the end we don't have one.
So yeah, just stick the originals.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: nub on April 16, 2009, 04:17:18 AM
orange
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: SuperMAn on April 18, 2009, 07:59:07 AM
This thread is going nowhere...
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: T3RR0R15T on April 18, 2009, 08:16:36 AM
(http://www.marathononline.com/images/teal.gif)

Teal

There are pixel faults in the corners.
Title: Re: Green team.
Post by: MosEz on April 18, 2009, 10:31:19 AM
Lol, go for orange if you need new colors. My self i don't care if we get new color or not. I'm happy with the existing ones. Though another bright one could be useful to dark maps.

orange is cool