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Title: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on February 20, 2008, 09:36:31 AM
Story:
Alright looks like [aT]Simple_Plan (Rocky) is wallhacking on Airtime

It was a 3v3 vs us and i made 2 demos of it.

1st Demo.

http://www.file-upload.net/download-679591/at.dm2.html

Good scene at. 6:39

2nd Demo.

http://www.file-upload.net/download-679594/Rocky.build20.dm2.html

Good scenes at. 4:31
                       3:32
                       2:11
                       1:41
                       1:29
                       Whole last minute
                       Best scene at 0:23

btw he was using build 20 on ck4400 server

and it looks like has has 2 accounts.

Player ID:   10617
Names registered:   rockie, crosby, miracle, r3dbull, lovex, simpleplan
Active Clan:   Absurd Threat
Former Clans:   Team ch1ll - B Squad, Apoboc, Team Cronic PainterZ, RisiNg pRos?

Player ID:   7462
Name registered:   rocky

And i know madmans hack is working with build 20

Thank you
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Byz on February 20, 2008, 09:37:47 AM
mz we have already had 8 day ban cause of multiple account . and we dont hack.... always when you lose you say we hack and mz so what if we use build 20? we use it cause we dont like 21 build sounds.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on February 20, 2008, 09:38:35 AM
have a look at the demo ty
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: hoffig on February 20, 2008, 09:39:14 AM
mosez
Player ID:   7462
Name registered:   rocky
this isnt aT rockie

he use nick "rocky" only on irc because anyone registered it "rocky"
so he must in pb use "rockie" :)
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Henkka on February 20, 2008, 09:46:41 AM
No one shouldn't even bother watching the demos. Always when we beat darkness and mZ is playing, he thinks we hack. Yesterday he told me that i hack just because they lost the match. Mosez should just accept that he can't always win and move on :)
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Byz on February 20, 2008, 09:47:59 AM
LOL i just watched the demo and it made me laugh irl.. it might look like wallhack but it isnt... those were wild guesses
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: ViciouZ on February 20, 2008, 09:49:31 AM
All upgrade to build 21. If you don't like the sounds, copy the old ones across.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Hatecrew on February 20, 2008, 09:51:37 AM
Hmm...maybe we should update all servers..so that u can only join in with build 21.

But anyway...i dont care rocky is hacking...i dont care about loosing matches...but i care about playing fair...if he hacked..np..but dont say "LOLOLOLOOLOALMAOROFL !"
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Deranged on February 20, 2008, 10:00:17 AM
Sometimes it looks suspicious (like when he sprays walls for no reason), but other times it just looks like good recon.. idk

the suspcious parts are really suspicious though, like at 2:00 when he comes flying around the corner and shoots the idle guy 1 shot in the face before grabbing.. or of course a little later when he comes into base and sprays the guy camping the outside of box without looking around first.. idk, its really a hard judgement call to make

EDIT: just finished the second demo, that last part with kongo camping mid is REALLY suspicious, haha. gg
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on February 20, 2008, 10:06:23 AM
Thats what i meant :)
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Sonny on February 20, 2008, 10:16:05 AM
I agree with mZ that there are some peculiar situations on the demo. But I don't think that he used a wallhack. Well, I'll be darned. I think he is only a airtime-freak with very striking luck.

Well, maybe he located a four-leaved clover on this day? Or he got the right stars in the sky...

:)
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Viper on February 20, 2008, 10:17:15 AM
.... always when you lose you say we hack

btw.. we won :)

looks like the new zgh..
i watched a movie of madman, he played like rockie
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Alpha on February 20, 2008, 10:26:42 AM
I've never EVER been accusing anyone to hack. but THAT video is obvious.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Olbaid on February 20, 2008, 10:40:57 AM
The only thing I can conclude from those demos is the fact that he has horrible aim even with +attack on.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Henkka on February 20, 2008, 10:44:41 AM
I'm terribly sorry mz but you're wrong.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: PaRaDeaD on February 20, 2008, 10:54:13 AM
Looks like wallhack but it isn't.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on February 20, 2008, 10:58:26 AM
its the girly instinct i know... lmfao shut up

Rocky the new mentalist
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Rocky on February 20, 2008, 11:05:45 AM
eh this is ridicilious.. its always the same story after we beat them in some map.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: BigRichard on February 20, 2008, 11:07:06 AM
Does look a little suspicious, Could say luck + good Recon but ehh. HACK
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Trapt on February 20, 2008, 11:12:22 AM
AMAZING!
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: DaVo on February 20, 2008, 11:46:07 AM
well, i agree with mZ...henkka is fine, but i dont believe rocky :O there are some moments which probably show that he´s hacking...when we match him, just the same...bad is, i always forgot to record it =D...im thinking only about rocky. I just think guy who hacked, will always hack..its like one player...he said never hacking..and some dayz later he had a wallhack :) ... I dont care about wins or losses...when we losse, np, but FAIR way
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Sonny on February 20, 2008, 11:55:03 AM
Recon ftw!
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on February 20, 2008, 11:59:10 AM
but impossible at the last scene :) both aT jump over the mid to our high and rocky is still lining to mid lmao
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Rocky on February 20, 2008, 12:00:03 PM
ye never heard about guesses?
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on February 20, 2008, 12:02:16 PM
lmfao
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: y00tz on February 20, 2008, 12:07:25 PM
Rocky, do you mind uploading your demo?

(I haven't watch the original demo btw, I'm @ work)
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: b00nlander on February 20, 2008, 12:15:47 PM
4:31
- no need to hack for that kill.
3:32
- nothing at all here, fool if you think there was
2:11
- nothing there either
1:41
- and nothing here either
1:29
- he clearly sees him passing on his left... nothing here.
Whole last minute
- what exactly did you mean here?  the 3 seconds he lines straight over mid? everbody does that...
Best scene at 0:23
- well, questionable. I'll review it, but I didnt see how he could have seen him camping there watching the demo the first time.


So, all in all this is a pretty bad move of Meini / Mosez. Rocky is clearly better than you on that map, and except for the last scene, there's nothing even questionable about his play. You seriously need to learn how to play that map.


edit:  last scene still looks suspicious after watching it twice.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Rocky on February 20, 2008, 12:18:48 PM
b00nlander is the man.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Stiftie on February 20, 2008, 12:20:08 PM
i dont  agree the comment from b00nlander 'he is better then mz there'.
mZ is amazing on that map i played with him like 2 months ago.
but really,i dont see any hacks in it.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on February 20, 2008, 12:20:46 PM
i just suck on it lol
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Byz on February 20, 2008, 12:21:45 PM
Yeah but mosez everytime you've lost airtime to us you've always called hax.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on February 20, 2008, 12:28:44 PM
byz we watching at u like the last 3 weeks. lets see what jitspoe will say
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Alpha on February 20, 2008, 12:33:51 PM
We  should update the servers on b21.
Right now.
I hope CK will modify it. Then we'll see if Rocky or aT want to try against us.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: atmays on February 20, 2008, 12:35:39 PM
Rocky dont hack. I remember when he accused me and fitz.

If you know how to play that map then the moves he made looks normal.

He never got so lucky against us though.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Byz on February 20, 2008, 12:45:44 PM
LOL. Alpha thinks we use build 20 so we could hack. lmao
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: PaRaDeaD on February 20, 2008, 12:54:11 PM
mZ you shouldn't be playing this game if you get so mad for losing one MAP, not even the whole match :)
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Stiftie on February 20, 2008, 01:11:59 PM
do you get mad if you loose a match parade?^^
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on February 20, 2008, 01:33:46 PM
i didnt get mad?! i just want a fair community
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Rocky on February 20, 2008, 01:38:40 PM
well you have one.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Fyre on February 20, 2008, 02:11:56 PM
Then why are you cheating.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: PaRaDeaD on February 20, 2008, 02:12:46 PM
i didnt get mad?! i just want a fair community
You sure did. Accusing someone for hacking even it's obvious that he isn't doing that, just to find a reason for losing a map.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Rocky on February 20, 2008, 02:15:03 PM
yes np
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Fyre on February 20, 2008, 02:16:59 PM
You sure did. Accusing someone for hacking even it's obvious that he isn't doing that, just to find a reason for losing a map.

Please explain to me how that is not blatantly obvious.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Byz on February 20, 2008, 02:20:53 PM
Please explain us how it is blatantly obvious. Everyone plays airtime like that. Line every mid corner cause people always comes there = not hacking and me and my brother rocky use so called "sound" recon. We hear like everystep and every shoot so we always know where they are.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Henkka on February 20, 2008, 02:37:08 PM
Cry me a river. Fyre, i know him in real life and i am 100% sure he doesn't hack. We have played airtime so much so we have got good at it. Just because you don't always win, doesn't mean that the opponents are cheating. Sure looked a bit suspicious but it was just luck. Max volume for the win.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Fyre on February 20, 2008, 02:37:29 PM
Or maybe he wallhacks, so he always knows where they are.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Fyre on February 20, 2008, 02:38:27 PM
I don't always win? I don't even play genius. I'm not crying at all, just pointing out what I see. No need to get all defensive broski.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Henkka on February 20, 2008, 02:41:01 PM
Okay if you say he cheats, then he does. Always believe Fyre in everything. He knows what he's talking about.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: FlaMe on February 20, 2008, 02:49:36 PM
id be more suspicious about the guy going 23-5 if i were you... lmao

and whoever said b21 for all servers is uneducated. b21 isnt compatible with some comps. when b22 works with vista, ill agree with that statement.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Henkka on February 20, 2008, 02:54:10 PM
and whoever said b21 for all servers is uneducated. b21 isnt compatible with some comps. when b22 works with vista, ill agree with that statement.
Yep.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Rocky on February 20, 2008, 03:43:33 PM
Why did Meini turn off observer blackout in a match? isnt that cheating ??
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: frozi on February 20, 2008, 03:45:21 PM
@ all the point with good recon and all is right but the cases mZ got out of this demo always are 3 aT`s vs our guys.
i don't want to call him a hacker but i also wrote jitspoe 4days before to check them. he didn't respond :(
if he not hacks it`s ok with me i don't want to get someone out of the community.
But the kind he plays is very strange.You also can`t say "it was only luck" there were just to much scenes which are unnatural
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Rocky on February 20, 2008, 03:48:09 PM
frozer u gotta understand it is airtime, if it is 1on3 and your guy isnt in base lining, he must be hiding somewhere so not hard to guess that pilar camp.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: b00nlander on February 20, 2008, 04:11:55 PM
Please explain to me how that is not blatantly obvious.

did you actually watch the demos, Fyre?  As I pointed out, there's maybe 1 thing in the 2nd demo that doesn't look quite right. I don't know how you can call the whole thing "blatantly obvious"...
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Alpha on February 21, 2008, 06:06:03 AM
Maybe MeMi should play ONE time against aT to see whats going on.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Byz on February 21, 2008, 06:35:24 AM
alpha we already did and won 2-0
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Alpha on February 21, 2008, 07:31:23 AM
there we go
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Gamabunta on February 21, 2008, 07:57:39 AM
Ban whole community... I haven't found anything suspicious, it's just they play airtime alot and know how to play it. mz, after every your 'lmfao' in demo I laughed, coz it was really nothing, is your reaction time this bad?
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Rocky on February 21, 2008, 08:48:49 AM
yes gama i love you too <3
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: MosEz on March 04, 2008, 07:54:05 AM
Dont forget this JITSPOE !1!1!111
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Byz on March 04, 2008, 12:55:10 PM
Just let it go mosez. We dont hack.
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: Fyre on March 04, 2008, 01:31:09 PM
henkka y u b-in a jerk man i sho nuttin but luv 4 u man y u b hatin on me
Title: Re: [aT] Simple_plan (Rocky) wallhacking
Post by: jitspoe on March 04, 2008, 11:23:46 PM
I took the time to review this with a wallhack enabled.  It's pretty obvious he wasn't using one, or he was really good at intentionally ignoring people behind walls that were clearly visible.  There were so many instances when he'd run right by somebody that was hiding, or sit and spray an area where no players were, when there were several players in another area clearly visible.  I'd also watch him jerk the mouse when he rounded a corner where a player suddenly became visible instead of aiming where, if he had a wallhack enabled, he knew a player was before rounding the corner.  I don't see anything remotely suspicious.  I'm locking this thread.